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Thinking of running Winny oral stacked with Clen. I am totally new to this and am leaning toward an oral stack for my first try before I dive into injections. Any thoughts or recommendations would be appreciated still learning a lot from reading all the post on this page.
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Ok everyone, sorry for the short uninformative original post. I was getting ready to leave for vacation with my family and just made a quick post right before we left. Should have just waited till I got back to post...again sorry and thanks to everyone who ripped my ass for the original post. I had that coming !!!
So I’ll start over, 38 years old, 5’10” 190lbs.
A little over a year ago I was 240lbs since then I have completely changed my diet and have been hitting the gym hard. Lifting 3-4 days a week and also cardio 2-3 days a week. Like I said in the original post I have never tried gear but I met a guy at the local gym and we have kind of become friends. He gave me some of his advice and sent me some articles he found online backing up his advice but after reading more on this site and with the help from a lot of you sharing links to threads about my topic I’ve quickly realized he’s not as knowledgeable as he thinks he is. He even offered to locate gear for me at a pretty fair price. I think I’m just gonna tell him I’m going a different route, he kinda seems a little shady anyways.
My main goals are to continue to shred down the weight and add some more muscle and definition. Not trying to be Arnold, but just want to continue on the path I’ve been on for the last 14 months....with a little performance help. My diet is on point mainly chicken, rice, eggs, veggies and some fruit. Currently I’m just taking JYM supplements and protein. I am currently at 18%bf. I just recently had blood work done and my free test was 14.3 and total test was 683.
I know a lot of you have recommended test injections and I am definitely open to all of your help and recommendations. Feel free to keep the advice and help coming and if I’ve forgot anything let me know....thanks
Thanks for being more specific . Sounds to me like that new gym “friend” might just be looking for a novice to buy some bunk or under dosed gear that he wants to get rid of. You came to the right place tho...tons of knowledgeable people here. I tend to learn more than teach here. I just speak up when someone posts a cycle that sounds like a bad idea...bc I did more than one of those when I was younger and screwed myself up pretty bad. The answers you’re looking for are here for the taking , just have to look around!
See how a post changes with more information. I will give you a +1 for admtting your mistake. Personally, cardio 2-3 times a week is not enough. One hour a day 5-6 days PW will see a noticeable change in your fat levels as long as you keep your calorie intake the same or lower.
Listen to the seasoned vets here man. I did all types of dumb shit in my mid 20s and it led to very little results and all kinds of side effects. So I’m speaking from experience. Not judging, just saying. Also, folks are probably concerned bc based on your idea of winny and clen, it seems you haven’t done much research at all. You might think orals are less “hardcore” because you’re not doing injections)I thought the same at one point), but doing a testosterone only cycle would be safer ....IF you do it responsibly and get blood work/physical done beforehand and determine your health is good enough to do it. Good luck and research research research! First lesson I learned : DIET MAKES IT HAPPEN
So, what's your decision?
Alphamale500An oral stack is the worst choice especially for your very first cycle. And you can't just run winny with clen because you're gonna need to use some testosterone as well. You said yourself that you're still learning a lot, and that's what you should really be focused on at this point imo, learning! And learning some more.
Just by the question that you asked, it's very evident that you are not ready to be running gear of any kind.
Take your time and learn everything you can, and soon you'll know the answer to your own question.
Correct me if I am wrong, but orals are the worst.
jayiskonly if she makes you pull it out before you finish ;]
i have to much test in my system. my mind just thinks like this all the time...lol
Lmfao....
lol
DobermannOne of the worse ideas i ever heard.gonna leave it at that.
Not good at all! Best to keep reading! You might discover we recommend injectable Test for a first cycle and no oral cycles for beginners!
Just do test. Trust me when i say you can recomp on straight test. Im absolutely floored at the results so far, best part is. Its only half over! :)(honestly. Scale when starting said 210, nownsays 235 but i dont believe it) ive also dropped about a % or 2 off my bf, granted im doing cardio 5x a week.
You Should be running test with all other compounds as well. In order to keep your body functioning.
On a serious note very bad idea.
Pcushionhttps://www.eroids.com/og/beginners-cycles
That’s about as straight forward as it gets.
5'10
190lb
What are your goals dude? I'm guessing recomp, which like a wise man i.e Makwa once said recomp is like chasing two rabbits at once, choose a rabbit and focus .
Grilled chicken and white rice several small meals a day consisting of those two, at your current weight and height that diet along with exercise and only water to drink will do absolute wonders for you dude. no need for those advanced compounds . maybe throw in a multi vitamin
I'm thinking of having sex for the first time. I'm totally new to this and I'm leaning toward inflatables for my first try before I dive into a woman. Any thoughts or recommendations would be appreciated. Still learning a lot from reading all the Penthouse forums.
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jayiskmight be too many options here...lol
OP please dont ask your parents to clean it after use.
https://www.fleshlight.com/
I'm thinking of having sex for the first time. Was thinking about sex robots. Want to try one out before I bought one. Heard there are sex robot brothels. But unfortunately I live in Houston. Help any suggestions.
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Not sure. I’m learning how to jerk it. Someone told me to roll it like dough.
PcushionNo man they call it beating off. You use a little hammer small wooden one is best.
You're on a good way doing your research, mate. My advice, be careful which hole you dive in. There are two. Could be a bad surprise if you choose the wrong one
you should go virtual for your first time.. I understand there is a huge community just for that right at your fingertips
Here’s a lit of what you should research. All of the answers are on this site and most of them in the links that have already been posted below.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/answer-these-que...
Like mentioned below, it's a bad idea. Never do a oral only cycle and first cycle ever should be just testo. You obviously didn't read enough, or you would already know it. Check the following topic and do some more research, before doing something stupid...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/pre-cycle-checklist
I'm not even going to comment other than to neg you for being ignorant.
Have you read these yet?
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/are-you-truly-re...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/how-to-run-a-cycle
The more experienced guys will chime in soon to tell you that’s a bad idea. Oral only, bad. No pct, bad. No research, bad. No information on what your diet, training, and goals are, bad.
You’re going to get told you’re not ready, to train harder, and eat better. And that’s the right answer, hopefully you stick around to learn more if this is something you’re set on.
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Word!