posted Sun, 10/19/2014 - 02:18
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bad news about winstrol/ an article i found
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Read this and thought id post the link in here http://www.musculardevelopment.com/articles/research-and-review/1894-win...
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Ye agree with that Imo anavar is good. And I also agree with term Great things were accomplished with it in the past, but we have less harsh compounds today that are more effective.
Not here to argue with anyone, but having just completed a cycle (relatively modest) with Test prop @ 350mg/wk /12wks and Stanozolol 50mg/day/ED/ weeks 5-12 with adex, hcg, etc, All I can go by is my bloodwork…..
All liver values in the normal range 2wks after last winny dose. I normally wouldn't run bloods this close, but had to have them done (Doc) for other (medical) reasons. I was concerned my values would be elevated from the orals, but all were within range, and doc didn't say a thing
Yeah, I love Var, but it's frigging expensive, and I tend to make better lean gains on the winny. I get dry joints on both, but not bad enough to hinder my training in anyway. I'd have to see more than that article to give up on the winny.
As for the other mentioned sides, I don't get any of them at the doses I run…
as they say in Thailand… "Up to you"
I'll be controversial here. Winstrol has little to no use in modern bodybuilding IMO. It does nothing that cannot be done better with less issues by using other compounds.
A given individual will respond in their own way to a given cmpd. For example Var- if you can even get real oxandrolone that is dosed as labeled causes unacceptable bump in blood pressure for me personally that doesnt happen with Stanozol and the effects, to me, were very similar between the two assuming the stuff was actually what it was labeled.
RustyhookerNot to mention FINDING real quality winny. Back when I used pharmacy winny, just 30th per day was painful huge pumps. The new garbage out there has folks starting at 50. Smh....
Very correct. I used to grab the Desma amps at 5 bucks a piece and drink half an amp with grapefruit juice everyday because the local gym dealer said the water based shit hurt like hell and you can get the same effect orally. True winny is really hard to come by
RustyhookerAnd it's oddly expensive when it's real. Grapefruit juice bingo!
I'll agree with that. Unless excitability, sleeplessness, liver toxicity, and getting rid of that unwanted hair on your head is a goal. Just my opinion, but it's a retro commodity. Great things were accomplished with it in the past, but we have less harsh compounds today that are more effective.
Hitman187Agree. Imo anavar is better. You get the strength increase and vascularity without getting dry joints and all the other nasty sides
No i agree with you there when i use winny i get few sides on it, i tend to find ull always come across poeple claming new studies show this and that, but in this article i think he trying to say that even on a low dose they have found it to be just as toxic to the liver as a high dose
Found that article a little strange tbh, they make out like the majority of us believe it's one of the mildest compounds available and very easy on the liver almost comparable to something like anavar.....
I've used both oral and inject winny and all my previous research prepared me for harsh sides all round. At no point did I think it was more or less sides free...
Unless I misread the article to some extent.