posted Tue, 06/03/2025 - 03:49
668
Anything like EQ
ad
Been on equipoise for a while now love the gains with it easily one of my favorite compounds really smooth all the ones ive used been taking PA for a couple years now they are out of everything it seems,so im looking for an alternative to EQ is there anything comparable to it out there
- Bookmark
- 0
- 0
EQ has been king for me, the estrogen control, vascularity, gains... I really like masteron as well but can't justify the hair loss.
Npp is a great compound for building muscle , it’s shorter acting so injections are more frequent , strength gains a more fairly decent and you get that deca afffect on the joints since is just a different ester of nandrolone
Yea I used to love tren thinking it was the king of vascularity...until I got legit eq lol...I like the 14 day half life its extremely moderate with sides,it does great increasing strength,gonna be hard to replace I probably shouldn't lol
Dhb is pretty sweet. Doesn’t cut e2 like eq does but gives a similar look. Prob need about two-thirds to half as much dhb to EQ.
I really enjoyed EQ once I got my e2 figured out. EQ is probably my favorite compound. Trying a combo of mast & npp to see if that’ll give similar look / effects
You ever combined DHB with a little Tren ?
@SimonM84 is running both on an upcoming cycle so you’ll want to talk to him! I can’t imagine running both just from the sheer body heat increase that both compounds gave me individually. I’m sure it’d be pretty wicked tho lol
Interesting you mentioned me on this topic followed by your statement. You are correct, it was too much for me to handle so I dropped the DHB for now and will run it in the winter. I felt lethargic but I was enjoying the effects of DHB at a low dose. Next time I use it I’m going to use 500 mg test and 300 DHB. I believe my estro was also crashing.
Out of curiosity, how much Tren were you running alongside the DHB when your BPM started spiking? I’ve been considering trying a lower dose, maybe around 200mg, and wondering if that could still bring some benefits without wrecking the heart rate.
Also…were you using Tren A or E? And what was your DHB dose at the time? Would be great to hear more about how your setup looked and how the sides built up over time. Always good to learn from others’ experiences, especially with a combo like that.
300 dhb 200mg Tren A pinned everyday. I wanted quickened results so I dropped the DHB and felt better. It takes too long to kick in and want to be at a trt dose by mid summer while pulsing orals here and there. I’m getting proviron soon.
Thanks for sharing your experience with DHB n Tren.
Asking that cause DHB will be in my next blast. Let’s see how it goes.
Yeah, I should’ve just altered the dosages of the dhb and test. Makwa would’ve said to bump up the dhb instead of adding Tren. I wanted to test out a method of Tren ace for sides and I’ll tell you right now, ED is the way to go for Ace. The sides are much more mild doing ED injections at a low dose. Depending on experience and size, I don’t believe there is a reason to exceed past 200mg. Yes, not a bodybuilder and shouldn’t be doing Tren, I just fucking like it.
Well man, I feel you .., I like Tren too. I’ve used it quite a bit and feel comfortable running higher doses when needed. Right now I’m at 700mg/week, and depending on the phase, I rotate between ED and EOD injections. ED definitely gives a smoother experience side-wise, but sometimes EOD works just fine, especially when the rest of the stack is solid and you don’t need Tren firing on all cylinders 24/7.
Now, DHB … I haven’t run it yet, but I’m very curious. A lot of people call it “EQ with a kick,” or say it gives EQ-like benefits in 10–12 weeks instead of needing 16–24. I’ve seen claims that DHB can rival or even replace Tren in certain stacks… but personally, I’m skeptical. Nothing hits like Tren, not mg for mg, not in terms of strength, hardness, nutrient partitioning, or overall physique changes. At least, that’s been my experience and what science and anecdotal evidence both seem to support.
That said, I’m open-minded. I’ll be testing DHB soon, probably in a growth phase post-cut and I’m considering pairing it with a small dose of Tren. Just enough to amplify anabolism and thermogenesis, but not enough to make sides unbearable. My concern is the potential BP spike, since both can push that up, especially if you’re stacking with a decent dose of Test.
Makwa’s logs are definitely interesting, especially on EQ and DHB .., but I believe he hadn’t run Tren(he stated that) when writing those, which makes it hard to compare apples to apples. So I’ve been digging around trying to find solid feedback from guys who’ve actually stacked DHB with 19-nors like Tren or NPP.
Right now, I’m torn between two setups:
• Test + DHB + Tren (low)
• Test + DHB + NPP
I’m also toying with dropping Mast in favor of doubling up on DHTs like DHB +…. a touch of Primo(maybe) or using Mast only for libido and SHBG control. I wouldn’t bet on Primo as a fast builder.., it’s slow and needs time, so in a 10–12 week window I’m leaning more toward adding Mast as the secondary DHT thing. But I’m not 100% sure yet.
So yeah, that’s where I’m at, finishing up my cut now, will do a proper recovery phase, get bloods, and if all is clear, I’ll give DHB a proper run and see what it really brings to the table.
Appreciate hearing your take too , sounds like you’re figuring out what works best for you with a smart approach. Always love connecting with guys who test, track, and refine rather than just throw compounds together blindly. Let’s keep swapping insights as we go.
I like this idea. I was in fear of running Tren and DHB together because both compounds are hard on the liver. The Pip is quite tolerable on the DHB unlike primo. If you don’t suffer from Pip, I’d maximize the usage of DHB to fully feel its effects. Plus, Jake used to say it raises hematocrit levels which is why I dropped it as well.
I've never had the balls to run DHB... maybe it's time
It’s time señor
You ever combined a little dhb with EQ?
EQ is really the king of vascularity, not even bold cyp gets you looking like a road map like it's big daddy.
I can't really think of anything right off the bat that is a direct 'alternative' to EQ in every sense. Mast, var, epo if you're looking for the athletic edge.