Am I the only one that HAS to take letro on cyc?
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5'10"
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9% bf
6-7 cycles
So I'm at a serious loss about what is going on with my body on cycle. Three cycles now that I have been blood tested on, my total estrogens read over 2000. Yea that's not a typo, 2000+ when it's supposed to be <100.
Could I be having a bad reaction to exemestane? That's what I have always used for AI, 25mg a day, along with a few drops of letro e3d. Still with that dosing I'm over 2000.
These readings I have gotten in the past while using pharma grade, and top research comps. My most recent readings are while using the top research chem company listed here, so I don't think it's quality.
How the fuck could this happen every cycle?? I start my AI week one. Could my body just not respond well to test? Is it the AIs? I can lways tell my estro is going up because sex drive does and I'm lethargic. Current cycle is below and I'm 8 weeks in, got tested 10 days ago. Any help is seriously appreciated.
Test E 600 1-22
EQ 600 1-20
Tbol 75 1-6
Provi 50 ed
Nordi gh 3iu 5 on 2 off
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Post your blood work so people can help you out.
Ill have to get the docs office to fax them to me but...Not to be rude I did that a year or 2 ago when I had the same issue and people just tried to tell me it was lab errors and shit like that. Said I should have a vagina and how do I not have tits. Got 0 real help.
Have you tried a different lab?
Yea man...one was through Private MD labs, a couple others from lab corp. I know it seems crazy and makes no sense but I think it is was gearhead posted below. Something genetic that makes everything in my body aromtize(sp?) and I cant follow typical AI protocol.
Pretty messed up for sure. Maybe you should try some Pharma Mast and Provi combo.
Funny you say that...I am taking Bayer Provi 50 mg ed too...Ive just learned my lesson to never get anything but pharma AIs...
That's the way to go if you can, especially PCT
No you're not the only one that takes letro on cycle. That's all I use. Aro and Adex don't do shit for me. Letro brings it under control. My problem is lots of aromatase. It's genetic. And with sky high E2 before I found my sweet spot with Letro - no gyno - not even a hint. Also, Letro doesn't bother me. No sides. Don't go into Letro with the fear of God that's it's gonna be horrible. U may need more than a few drops. Think positive. Try it - the top eroids sources have their own brand and pharm grade as well.
BRO...it relieves me to hear you say this. You are the first and only to have the exact same issue as me. I get no letro sides up to 2.5mg a day, no gyno sides from the estrogen or anything. But without a doubt the letro I have been on was bunk...went and just got pharma.
FR sent my man...I would love to chat with you about this in detail.
FR accepted bro. I would be happy to talk with you about this. No worries.
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well i have to admit, this one has me stumped, its like the false readings on tren, cant be bunk ais if pharma and at those doses most would floor estro, maybe try different lab too test you, it seems very strange, estro at 2000 you would be in a world of pain.... ive cycles with triple that amount of test and never had those numbers.....
Trust me dude I dont understand either and shit is bugging me. No one I know that runs gear has this happen. And the fact that I have had these readings on several different cycles, years apart tells me its not false readings. The craziest part is I dont feel that bad. Like almost didnt even get bloods done cause I feel nothing but a lowered sex drive, lazy some days and some anxiety some days. But due to past experiences that feeling is enough to tell me my estrogen is crazy jacked.
i have no evidence on this, its just hear say, a guy was telling me that in some men, the ai actually acts as estrogen through a certain pathway.... maybe your one of them....... maybe its shit talk...... its a worry, if aro and letro dont work, your fkd.
Are you getting any Gyno though?
No guna just low sex drive and some days low energy.
That sounds more like crashed estrogen then high estro symptoms
Like I said, levels are over 2000. Aint nothin even close to crashed
If your having this problem consistently I would get better AI. Go pharma not research chems, plenty to choose from
I tried bro and had my doc write a script for anastrozole, problem is it's $1200 fucking bucks without insurance.
Holy shit what pharmacy do you goto , my doc writes me 8, 1mg anastrozole pills for the month , I think my script is .25 every 3rd day and it's like 30 bucks , that's crazy . Can get pharma grade here from some sources for pretty cheap
AnonYou can get pharma from across the pond ( assuming you are in the US ) for less than 10% of that cost.
Wow fucking pharmacys that's insane...
Well that got out of hand quickly.
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One of the research companies on here which is one of the top rated ones carries out bunk
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First and last warning.
My bad just trying to be thorough with the details...