Advice needed & Much appriciated!
Hey guys, I've looked all over the place online & found this place to be my best bet to get some good educated advice on what I'm dealing with so Please help me out if you can... I'm not into working out & getting big but I'm 37 now & after hitting my 30's apparently my testosterone severely started dropping!?! At first I was using Testem gel from my Dr but lost my insurance so stopped getting it, plus it was a Huge pain in the ass anyways so I got a bottle of Test E from a friend that is into the scene & after injecting 1ml I waited a week & felt nothing so my buddy told me to start 1.5ml every 3 days & after about a week or so I started feeling Great as I used too! I continued to do that & went to my Dr & had my blood work done & my numbers were 1500 which he said was too high so I backed off. When I started to not feel as good I took the last shot but then was out & my buddy moved away so after researching I found this website & picked one of the Top rated sources & ordered 2 bottles of Test E. When I got it I started taking 1.5ml every 3 days again but I have already gone through the first bottle & on to the 2nd taking 8 shots so far & Still don't feel good as I did before "energy, sex drive etc.".... I sent the supplier a msg & his response was that the product was good & why didn't I use a "kick starter like Tbol"... I didn't need that before & felt GREAT from the stuff I got from my buddy in Half the time? So my question is do you guys think I got some fake product from this Very Highly rated source or am I doing something wrong? I have read about proper injection & believe I'm doing it right, in my upper thigh / butt with a 1.5" needle into the muscle just like I did before. Sorry for the Long read but I'm trying to be thorough & am Tired of feeling the way I do!!! Any advice you guys can give me is MUCH APPRECIATED!!!!!
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This is a job for a doc not a forum. Typical trt doses are 100-150mg/wk of test. You've been putting 750mg/wk into your body. That's why it needs to be controlled my a medical professional.
Your hearts in the right place. You just aren't educated enough on the subject. You likely haven't done any real damage that isn't reversible at this point, hopefully. But its imperative that you get bloodwork done. You need to check your test, free test, e2, hell get every damn test you can and see where everything is. At this point you have no insurance? I'm assuming you paid out of pocket for your last doc visit but simply can't afford prescribed trt? Understandable in this economy, but you wont find a bargain for trt here or anywhere else once you account for everything else you need. The amount you've done made you feel great because it was a shitload. After the long ester test compounded over the weeks, you ended up with over a gram of test in your system. That's more than I ever run bro and I'm a big fat gorilla. A vial of test 250 should last you at least 15 weeks at a trt dose. And you won't be feeling any effects until week 3 at the very earliest. The big hit is around week 5. And you have to understand there's more to it than poking oil in your butt. You have to account for the aromatization of that test and block estrogen buildup. You have to watch dht levels so you don't end up with a prostate bigger than your fist. You have to make sure your balls stay alive so you don't run around with shrimp nuts. You MUST get a hormone panel and return to us again and post the results. Hide personal info on the image. Then we can evaluate the situation and get you set in the right direction. But you have to understand, we're not doctors, some of us are, I'm not, but eroids isn't going to replace a real physician or an endo. I hope you stick around and post updates with bloods so you don't end up a sad, fat, man boob swingin, bonerless lump like so many self trt bros do.
First of all, Thank you All for taking the time to respond & help me out! WOW!!!! Well shit apparently I really am doing some Stupid shit & I hope I haven't totally screwed myself up and drop dead of a heart attack "which runs strong in my family"! To clear up the Dr questions, while I was on medical leave from having back surgery the company I worked for lost their account so I was laid off. I then started my own company & now have no insurance but come September I will be put on my wife's medical insurance and be able to start getting proper trt treatment. I went to my doctor to get my blood work done and just paid cash because I knew I needed to get it checked out. I definitely feel stupid for going at this without being educated enough and knowing what all is involved with it. I guess I have just gotten impatient and frustrated because with my levels being so low at one point, I just don't feel like a man anymore. I will definitely stop taking everything and get my blood work done tomorrow morning. I contacted the private med labs and found a location in my area but they told me I need to go to www.directlab.com and pick which test I want done. I know you stated get as many tests done as I can but what specific tests should I have done? Thanks again for all your help and patience with me. At this point I am pretty nervous from my stupid actions and I wish I would have come to this website long before I tried to fix this problem myself. As soon as I get my results back, I will post them and eagerly await for your input. thanks again.
Standard TRT dose is usually around 200-250 mgs per week which most of the time is one mL.That means like iron said you are taking way too much for not being on something to control estrogen. Take rustys advice and get bloods done all the info you need is in his reply. I'm sure the reason you dont feel good is your estrogen is way out of control. TRT is a very delicate balancing act of hormones and there are many variables that will bite you in the ass if not handled the right way. TRT is not as easy as jabing a pin in your ass every week there is sooo much more to it. Doing TRT on your own without a doc is is not something to take lightly and it sounds like you need to do a lot more research if you are going to continue on your own.
RustyhookerI've yet to see trt that high. Can you provide clear evidence?
To clear up the Dr questions, while I was on medical leave from having back surgery the company I worked for lost their account so I was laid off. I then started my own company & now have no insurance but come September I will be put on my wife's medical insurance and be able to start getting proper trt treatment. I went to my doctor to get my blood work done and just paid cash because I knew I needed to get it checked out. His office called me and told me that my numbers were at 1500, but I did not get any paperwork on it. but the private lab place that I am going to tomorrow, said they can give me a printed out copy. so within the next few days I will have paperwork on my numbers. The thing that concerns me is that I was at 1500 just with one bottle and now I am just over a full bottle, so who knows how high my levels are now. I do realize what I have done is stupid to do this without the proper knowledge, but i felt desperate to start feeling like a man again, stop crying over commercials like a woman and have a sex drive again for my wife.
Ugh alright man, first off self prescribe testostrone replacement therapy is a bad idea. There's to many different variables that you have to control that you don't have the knowledge to do. Estrogen, thyroid, rbc and many more that needs to be handled by a doctor. Second off the ester, which you probably don't understand, it's a basically a time release mechanism that's attached to testostrone molecule they makes it release over a long priod of time, so of course you didn't feel anything after 1 week it's takes 4-6 for it to build up to peak plasma levels. After 3 you should jHabw been feeling good, so now you have been injecting yourself with 1.5mls every 3 days which I assume is between 375-450mgs every 3 days which averages out to between 750-900mg of testosterone per week. So congrats you have been running extremely high doses of anabolic steroids for god knows how long and you don't workout. Those doses are that of an advanced user and can and will be detrimental to your health. Which is exactly what is going on with you because your not using anything to prevent the test from converting to estrogen which is why you feel like total shit. Your estrogen levels are 20-30 times higher then they should be and your test levels are 10-20 times higher then they should be. So what you need to do is stop this right now before you damage your health any further, get blood work and acess the damage. I'm sure your rbc is sky high right now which is putting you a great risk for heart attacks and strokes,and there's probably a bunch of other shit going on. I don't even knkw what to say in tired right now. I'll let someone else handle this.
And I'm sorry if I sounded like an asshols, but your 37 years old, I'm 25 and supposed to be reckless at this age and I know this is a terrible idea. This is an 18 year old move.
RustyhookerSounds like you're completely messing up yourself. No blood tests to show where your test, free test, estradiol are at. Doing too much test.
Privatemdlab.com get female hormone panel for $59. Post it up.
Why aren't you working with your endo? You state insurance but then state you saw Dr again. Which is it?