A bit confused
Just want some clarification
just FYI i am in no way ready to take AAS or will take them anytime soon maybe in a couple years when i adhere to what i am reading completely and able to know everything in depth well my scenario is hypothetical for what i MAY take as a First cycle...this is for knowledge purpose as a "what would/should i do scenario".
Now that that's clear lol let me get to it
I've been reading up a bit just gathering knowledge and i'm thinking of running a basic cycle in the future of Test E only cycle coupled with Nova/clomid.
Cycle:
Wk 1-10 Test Enanthate 400mg each week
Wk 1-15 Nolvadex 20mg each day
Wk 12-15 Clomid (PCT phase?)
Day1 300mg Clomid + 20mg Nolvadex
Day 2-11 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolvadex
Day12-21 50mg Clomid + 20mg Nolvadex
" https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/77975-ste... " (for those of you that want to see the basic guide i'm refering to)
This is a posted cycle for basic beginners posted that i've copy pasted which didn't seem to get any negative comments which i assume means the cycle is good for a beginner.
This is the cycle i plan on doing down the line when i start...but i have a few questions about this alone.
The Test E is straight forward (but do you do DAILY injections to add up to lets say in this scenario 400mg so in a week would u take ~55mg shots daily or do a 200mg shot on monday lets say thurs or friday do the other 200mg? )
the Nolv is take it each day (but does it matter when you take nolv? during/around same time of injection? before injection then wait to inject? night? or just literally anytime during the day?) Also do you take 20mg basically throughout your ENTIRE cycle and between cycle and during PCT meaning week 1-10 is Test E with nolv, week 11-12 (nolva alone), Week 12-15 which is PCT nolva/clomid.
Also for the clomid phase it is during week 12 meaning 2 weeks after your last site of injection...based on the guide i got that cycle from they say 300mg of clomid on Day 1 (scares me as i've seen alot of people say no need to go over 100mg....but it is just for one day? maybe it is to kickstart PCT? but does it need to be that high i heard sides are scary, vision is what scares me the most as i have glasses already). But then continues to go to 100mg a day for roughly a week and tapers down.
Lastly...do i need to worry about acne on a cycle like this? do i need to take anything else to avoid acne? Because i've seen people say they've done a basic cycle similar to this and been riddled with acne...do i need to get my hands on anything else when i do actually cycle to avoid acne i.e. Accutane or just have it on hand? The last thing i want is acne scars...
i know theres alot of questions here do what you can i really appreciate it! Just trying to understand what i can i'm a bit slow so i'm going to spend my time if not a couple years on these forums and more til i fully understand what i'm getting into before i get in this.
Also any tips/knowledge or anything you want to share that you think may be helpful in my journey of knowledge of AAS would be great. If you see anything wrong with i'm saying or the cycle i was talking about please do share your thoughts and advice!
Thanks in advance!
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PcushionYour thought process was the same as mine if what your saying is true about not cycling for some time. I spent two years researching hormones and steroid cycles, pct, stacks etc. I didn’t try to deploy everything I learned because there is a huge difference in knowledge and applied knowledge. My recommendation to you is use the forums to educate yourself on doses and different pct protocols. When it comes to the hormones themselves and additional drugs. Try to find medical information if possible. You also need to educate yourself on the health risks involved with AAS use. There are no freebies in this game. We will all pay in some way for our decisions to use AAS.
Read about steroid esters it will answer your dosing questions.
aw man thanks for the reply you narrowed down what i specifically need to learn about which is really helpful!
and yeah i'm not risking anything til i know the majority of what is needed and risks involved at every turn!
PcushionHave fun my brother.
Alphamale500Listen, you're 100% not ready and not knowledgeable enough to even attempt running gear at this point. I don't like to spoon feed people, but I'll give you just a few tips to stear you in the right direction.
-Test enanthate only needs to be injected once or twice per week
-Just test enanthate by itself at roughly 400 or 500mg per week can be a good starting cycle
-Consider using an A.I. instead of nolvadex during your cycle(Nolva won't lower high e2 levels overall)
-Your PCT definitely needs to be rethought and tweaked, and your clomid doses seem too high imo
-Usually, if your e2 levels are in check with an A.I. then you SHOULDN'T have much of an acne problem
-Lastly, your nolva regimen is all fucked up!!
Just focus on RESEARCH, RESEARCH, RESEARCH!!! And while running gear after doing enough research, focus on BLOODWORK, BLOODWORK, BLOODWORK!!
Good luck bro and listen to me when I tell you you're not ready yet to use gear of any type!!
Hey, we were all there at some point right?
Oh i'm not cycling atall or i won't be cycling anytime soon, i said that in the original post...i know i need to learn a metric ton before i try this...thanks for the feedback i really do appreciate the tips you left for me!
the cycle by the way is from the link i left in the original post...it's from a guide on eroids that's been stickied...i think i stated that? idk either way i'm still trying to learn everything i can and your reply was very helpful!
in terms of bloodwork i can't have them done anytime soon as i have no medical for a couple months...so not sure what to do there.
if you have any other advice btw please do share!
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Female hormone panel’s only $60. Guys can get it to, just make sure you say you’re a man when filling it out. That one covers the basics tho for the best cost. On cycle (years from now when ur ready) you’ll want to get a step up but that’s good for now. They have more complex/expensive hormone panels as well if you really wanna run the table and see what’s up with everything. You’ll know what to look for after you do more research.
They send you a requisition and you take it to labcorp. Labcorp knows it’s prepaid so nothing to pay or do after that but let them take ur blood. Then they email you the results
PcushionAlways helpful top notch advice brother!
oh damn thats perfect! if things don't go as planned i can fall back on that method!
thank you!
I think you are overthinking this. Best to keep reading if this is so far into the future and decide what's best when you're really ready.
https://www.eroids.com/og/beginners-cycles
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/are-you-truly-re...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/how-to-run-a-cycle
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/answer-these-que...
Good one bud
Sometimes you gotta spoon feed them some stuff to get them started. also the search system can be a bit of a pain on mobile, so I get it.
yeah i'm using my phone it's wonky..but i appreciate the links! will go through each of them! ty
The Fact you are asking do you inject Test E daily has me VERY scared - You really need to spend a lot more time reading over basic first cycles and everything that is involved including PCT. All of your questions on when to inject and how much etc. are all answered on there.
well i'm not planning on cycling anytime soon maybe in a couple years.
just asking to understand i'm going through guides/stickies daily now to learn as much as i can.
i dont plan on putting ANYTHING like this in my body without knowing every aspect of it.
Use the search button look for first time cycles here. I don't know where you got the article you posted I'm not going to read it. From what you have said its garbage.
Too much going on, x2 just search first cycle here... I did a quick look saw 300mg clomid n went on to comment just search 1st cycle.
well that isn't my cycle i came up with that i posted...that is a cycle for beginner was listed on eroids..click the link i posted in my original post and scroll down to the Cycle they listed...it's from this site and stickied.
This isn't steroid . Com .
o shit my bad lol...well i got sent from a sticky on here to there then
Welcome to EROIDS
If you aren’t planning on cycling soon I think the best way to answer these questions, is to point you in the right direction so you can read and learn yourself.
1) cycle length, better choices when using an enthanate ester.
2) nolvadex usage is completely wrong, do more research about aromitse inhibitors and there uses.
3) Bloodwork is key, looking to what test you will need and when.
4) pct could do with changing a little, plenty of forums on here for a good pct protocol
5) accutane is a harsh drug, it will all depend on manage your estrogen levels. Bloodwork will show this. Also if your acne prone before cycling?
yeah i wont cycle now this is just for knowledge i'm not putting anything IN me without knowing all the risk or to the best of my ability of what they are and how/if i can avoid sides from them and get the best possible results while doing so.
cycle length would be ~10 weeks for my FIRST cycle on Test E...followed by a 2 week off period from my understanding then PCT for 3 weeks.
for the nolvadex i just saw the guide on : https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/77975-ste...
and based it on that...i'm guessing he's wrong? can you elaborate why you said he's wrong by the way just so i know? i was more concerned about the amount of clomid he suggested that scared me...as i heard clomid is more harsh.
i'm planning on getting bloodwork when i can but i don't have health care for 3 more months til my plan kicks in (new job)....but tbh i've never had health issues...but you never know i'll ofcourse get it done when i have access.
i'll check the PCT forums once again that was just an example cycle i got from another guide post that i linked i guess he didn't do a proper cycle? sadly theres soo many different guides with different first cycles...it's hard to figure out what's good and not as a first cycle.
and in terms of acne...i'm 27 haven't had acne since highschool...but in highschool it was bad....my face is CLEAR asf now and a little bumps on my shoulders but in highschool i had acne all over my shoulders so i assume once on a cycle i would flare up again thats why i wanted to do accutane..acne on my shoulders just made me feel like i didn't want to show my arms or go sleeveless....it was literally depressing because of the shoulder acne i had an amazing physique most of my life but i never show my shoulders because of the acne growing up.
sorry if it feels like you're spoon-feeding me info...i just want to be thorough with this rather than regret anything when i do decide to hop on in a few years.
I would stay away from Accutane unless you had cystic acne. It’s pretty gnarly stuff, I had a friend in college who had cystic acne and got chrons disease from the Accutane (it did clear his acne though). You’d be better off with a good strong antibiotic soap and several frequent showers. Like shower in the morning, shower after the gym, and shower before bed.
i actually have two cystic acne spots on my face...but it's not visible...but to the touch you can feel it...luckily my dermatologist leaked it well without having to scar my face.
but i didn't know it can cause chrons disease! whoa..that's intense i thought by when people say it's harsh and to use it as a last resort is because of it's common sides like extreme drying of skin/mouth rash itch etc...
sadly i can't shower too frequently...my skin dries to the point i get severe hives or rash all over my body literally incapacitating me...my fam doc told me to take a shower every othercday and keep it cold and very short....