I've read through a lot of these forums and all I've came to realize is that this site is only here for 1 reason and that is to help educate beginners and our vets on the use of anabolic steroids, updates on new protocols and focusing on the safety of everyone! I've seen that a lot of people are complaining and are upset that they don't have much Karma, which I understand completely, and that all their helpful comments and educational forum topics are going unnoticed. "Nobody is recognizing us for our help". I've even seen a comment saying they were done "trying" to get Karma and just keeping to themselves. We'll I don't think any of us should care one single bit about what our "Karma Rating" is. We are not here for Karma. We are here to help everyone we can. Educate beginners from doing things harmful to themselves. We've seen it a thousand times "1st cycle Tren and a gram of Test E a week, more is better right?" and I'm sure 90% of us have almost made very stupid decisions including myself. WHAT STOPPED US? My guess is that a lot of us found this site before our fist cycle. We posted our cycle and got ripped a new asshole by the seasoned vets that only ripped us a new one to protect us from something very stupid. Then we changed our cycle and guess what? IT KICKED F****** A**! We used an A.I. and low dose test. We used caber with 19nors. We realized that just Nolva PCT isn't enough. People have DIED from the use of anabolic steroids guys! Do not give up on helping people on EROIDS just because were not getting Karma. Karma or no Karma keep helping! I wasn't lucky enough to find this site in the beginning. I was lucky enough to find it as soon as I did before I made more stupid decisions though. I even drilled some vets after posting a cycle I thought was "perfect" and told them they were wrong. I was wrong. This site proved it. I did research on this site alone and found every answer I needed. Karma is great. We all want it! We all want to be looked at as "vets". The only way to get it is to keep trying, keep helping, keep informing everyone that will listen. We are all here to help. We are not here for Karma, that is just a bonus. There's a bigger picture. This isn't Tylenol were messing with. Karma needs to come last for everyone. Help first. I don't doubt for one second that this site has saved lives. Please think about this. Trust me I want some Karma too but with Karma or not I get full access to this site. To the help, the vets, the beginners and to the sources to add to my own educated stash. Over time you will get to "vote" and give out Karma but until then please remember why we are all here.