Here's my gear. How would you use it for 12 weeks?
Ok guys, as you can see from my stash below I’ve stocked up on every single thing I can think of for what I will need for my first cycle. I’m more of a buy first ask later type of guy. I went into this knowing that I wanted a long ester because I really don’t want to pin more than twice a week IM. I already know I have way more than what I need, especially for a first cycle, so please don’t tell me that I have too much or that I wasted my money. I will either incorporate the remainder for future cycles or be a nice friend for what I don’t use.
Short background… Last cycle I did was in college (14 years ago), I have no clue what I shot, but it worked and I blew up.
I’ve been working out on and off all my life, but have been consistent for the past months. The off times were mostly due to injuries. Although I stray, my diet is pretty good and I know how to run it, but my cardio sucks. I do drink, which is what I "think" is setting me back (motivation wise), but I plan on eliminating alcohol altogether when I start the cycle. I plan on a 12 week hardcore program starting May 1, not counting PCT. I don’t mind spending money on gear or supplements.
I am 35, 185lbs/bf?/5’11. I consider myself fairly in shape but I am holding just enough belly fat to hide my abs. I know they are in there. I’ve seen them before.
Just to be honest, here are my fears and concerns: (Testicular Atrophy/ Testosterone Suppression, Gyno, Water Retention, Liver damage).
What would your 12 week look like if you could divide this up that way you wanted for your first cycle, plus PCT?
Here’s what I have in hand…
Testosterone Enanthate 12000mg (4 - 300mg/ml - 10ml)
Testosterone Cypionate 6250mg (1 -250mg/ml - 25ml)
Nandrolone Deca 7500mg (3 - 250mg/ml - 10ml)
Sustanon 5000mg (2 - 250mg/ml - 10ml)
Masteron Enanthate 3000mg (3 -100mg/ml - 10ml)
Primo enanthate 5000mg (2 -250mg/ml - 10ml)
Anavar 3000mg (50mg/60 capsules)
HCG 25,000 IU (5x 5000IU)
Clomid 3000mg (50mg/60 capsules)
Nolvoldex 1,500mg (25mg/60 capsules)
Arimidex 60mg (1mg/ml - 60ml)
Aromasin 750mg (12.5mg/60capsules)
Liv.52 (90 capsules)
Here’s what I was thinking…
1-12 –Test E 250mg (M & TH)
1-13 - HCG 250IU (T & F)
6-12 - Anavar 50mg (ED)
15-18 - Nolvodex (50/50/25/25)
15-18 – Clomid (75/75/50/50)
Thanks in advance for your help! I have 1 month to nail this plan down.
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id sure like to get my hands on some primo-e @250mg/mil
First if you are going to use anavar your bf needs to be 12 or below or you are just pissing away the var. For your concern about side affect .25mg of adex every other day will do good not only to stop sides but it also free up test in your body. HCG is good but to much will shrink your balls worst then test and doing a beginner cycle like this one hcg should not be needed. Seeing that you haven't done a cycle in 14 years I would keep it simple.
1-12Test e at 500mg/w
3-12adex .25mg eod
14-17 Clomid 100/100/50/50
14-17 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
RustyhookerTHIS is the correct way to go. Proper adex dose as well!
Do not run adex at 1Mg per week. Follows logans layout.
SpyVHow do you figure if your BF is above 12% you are pissing away the var? I've known quite a few guys who got on a var only cycle over 12% bf and saw results. I certainly wouldn't recommend it, but that statement seems a bit far fetched. Aside from that, couldn't agree more with your recommendations!
RustyhookerVar only cycle is redundant. You wont get real gains/losses. Placebo effect and still shuts you down.
Basically....$200 to acheive nothing.
angusI think that is a good first cycle, and you are using your head properly. Be careful about hording water based products as they only have a 90 day shelf life. That being said you have a very basic cycle here but I would tweak it just a little bit.
1-12 Test E 500mg/wk
3-14 HCG 500iu/wk
2-14 Adex 1mg/e3d
6-12 Anavar 50mg/ed
15-18 Clomid 100/100/50/50
15-18 nolva 50/50/25/25
That should treat you right.
Thanks for the adjustments. I'll definitely put those in place. Any opinion on a possibly front-loading, or should I just keep it as is?
angusIf you've used test e and you're comfortable with it and any sides you might get then you could front load the test at 1000mg/wk for the first two weeks. But since you said it's been a lot of years i'd play it safe and ease into it.
you're definitely stocked up for future cycles. i think your layout looks good. i would run the anavar at the end like that as well. you could wait a few weeks on the hcg. but other than that it looks good.
Hold off on the var. Start hcg til week 2 or 3. Run an ai. Run hcg til week 14. I know its not in your cycle and i know you already have it but look into npp instead of deca, I'll never take deca again. Give us a breakdown of your diet. Macros.
Well, what are u exactly trying to achieve with this cycle?
I'm definitely looking to put on some solid muscle gains, without looking like a water balloon, and hopefully burn some fat in my stomach to see my abs again. I have a feeling one I start doing cardio on a regular basis it'll happen for me.