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  • Which Ancillaries would you recommend for my cycle

  • Panzer189   •   Tue, Jun 11th, '19 14:22   •   13 replies, 145 views

43 yr old male, 5'9", 200lbs, currently approximately 10 to 12% body fat
Currently I'm running
Test p 150mg eod
Tren a 100mg eod
Tadalafil 30mg weekly or every 5 days
Week 2 of my cycle and adding 50 to 75mg of npp eod

I am going to add NPP this week and want to start an ancillary. I have never had many side affects with any of my cycles and since I have to run TRT year around I've never had a real issue loosing my gains after cycle with just a basic OTC pct. The more I read the more I want to run a ancillary with my cycle.
I have ran the above cycle for years and had great results from it for what I'm trying to achieve. In the past I have ran higher dosages but at this point in my life and my goals there isnt a need to over do it or get really crazy like I did when I was younger.
My question is with what I'm running now including the npp which of these would you recommend and at what dosage? These are what I have avaliable Arimidex, Clomid, Nolvadex, Letrozole, Aromasin

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  • Makwa's picture
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  • Makwa
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I have to run TRT year around I've never had a real issue loosing my gains after cycle with just a basic OTC pct.

Confused here. Why are you attempting any type of PCT if you are TRT? You just go back on your TRT. No point trying to reboot anything.

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  • Shred777
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You could up your vitamin B6 intake if your worried about prolactin. B6 is a prolactin inhibitor. 200 or 300mg of B6 a day is pretty safe for most people.

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I am not trying to be an ass but you need to be careful what you recommend to people. There is enough half ass advice floating from forum to forum that messes people up and you don’t want to contribute to it. The studies on b6 lowering prolactin are very conflicting and there are more that show it’s not effective then show it’s effective. Studies in which it did lower prolactin it took a very long time to bring down to acceptable levels 34-90 days and it’s not effective for everyone by any means. If B6 worked well at lowering prolactin then it would be labeled as a substance to do so, but it’s not. Steroids are serious medications and need to be respected as such. Let’s take tribulus for example. It’s shown to boost testosterone via LH increase but not one is going to use it in place of Clomid during PCT. This scenario is the same with B6 and prolactin. I could see it being an option for naturally high prolactin but not prolactin caused by 19-nor steroids.
I will be glad to post some links with documentation if you don’t believe me or care to learn more.

  • press1's picture
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Bloody hell you've really upped your knowledge lately! +

  • Pcushion's picture
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I am always learning man. This is stuff I always knew. I joined Eroids not to ask questions but to answer them. I have more medical journals on hormones than I care to admit. Never been much for bro science only fact based knowledgeable. Never had gyno either I feel compelled to throw that out as well lol.

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You're not being an ass. I respect you calling me out. You made a really good point and analogy. You're right.

  • Pcushion's picture
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No worries brother excellent attitude about the whole situation. Knowledge can’t enter a closed mind.

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  • Panzer189
  • 1 week ago

Pcushion, thank you for your help! I appreciate your feed back.

  • Pcushion's picture
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Glad to help my brother.

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  • Pcushion
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Aromasin all the way it’s a superior AI plus no rebound and it bids up SHBG well. Don’t jump on the caber bandwagon just yet. Prolactin is fueled by E2 and progesterone, and progesterone is fueled by E2. Keep your E2 in check and you should be fine. Don’t touch the tamoxifen while your running 19-Nors that’s a guaranteed way to have problems. Honestly prob best to leave that alone period for this cycle.

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  • Panzer189
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OK I'll look it up. Sorry for asking.

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  • johnmarshall12
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Well obviously you need some of the ancillaries you list, but you might want to consider Caber as well. But the Clomid and Nolva are for PCT as I'm sure you know.

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  • Sam I Am
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If you’ve been running that forever you should already know...