+ 5 Fertility PCT expiriment
I'm working on some things. Most who know me know that I'm pushing the boundaries of PCT for my fertility program. Some say guys on TRT can't PCT and I gotta say I've found some studies that suggest otherwise. I began a new protocol a couple of months ago. It all started with a conversation with my homie Muta. Here's the link that Muta sent me a while back.
http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-testosterone-information/102444-famou...
I read another good outcome in this study
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9758439/
And why I'm using HCG now and not HMG or both is this.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7921222/?i=3&from=/9758439/related
HMG is also hard to get domestically but if you have access to pharm HMG then definitely it is worth using. However according to this study here was no difference in terms of results between the two. So because of the accessibility factor and the study I chose to go with HCG.
So all in all I set up my fertility plan like so:
I separate it into (2) layouts. And run them 2 on 2 off.
Layout 1(BLAST- To be run for two weeks prior and into my wife's ovulation)
100/100 Clomid
40/40 Nolvadex
12.5/12.5 Aromasin
2500iu HCG eod
1.5iu Serostim daily
Layout 2( Cruise- To be ran for 2 weeks Immediately after ovulation cycle passes)
50/50 Clomid
20/20 Nolva
6.25/6.25 Aromasin
1.5iu Serostim
I need to run some Labs and get an Sperm Analysis done to gauge the experiments effectiveness. But in the meantime I will continue to run this until I get the results I'm looking for.
I do have a question for anyone with a medical background. I've heard so many conflicting theories that long term HCG use will cause shutdown but I have doubts since these studies show long term use is being proven beneficial. Is my approach of a two week blast followed by a two week cruise even helping or should I run it eod until it works? I chose to go two on two off to not over do it. Any feedback regarding this would be helpful.
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StevebGood post
Bumping this one. Did you follow up on this one CarlosDanger
AnonYeah I did. Increased volume and motility based on my semen analysis. Trying and not getting pregnant is a fucking roller coaster man. Not fun when it don't happen for ya. Oh well I'm back on cycle.
Carlos this is not a bad approach. However the success to fertility can take several months if not a year and with the dosages you run you might actually be counterproductive. I'm fairly familiar with Scully's work but running hCG at such a high dose is going to create a whole slew of other problems like elevated E2 that cannot be controlled with an AI.
I would honestly modify your approach to. On 150 IU every day. Clomid 25mg every day. Nolvadex 10 mg every day. If you have any questions feel free to PM me.
I know clomid and HMG is supposed to be the best fertility drugs. I'm confused though you said to be used 2 weeks prior to menstruation immediately after ovulation? In other words Start on day of ovulation or start 2 weeks Before day 1 of menstruation because wouldn't the goal be to be most fertile day before and OF ovulation? That means 1 week of menstruation then 2 weeks before ovulation so you'd want to start at the start of menstruation right or at the end?? If you start at the start of menstruation doing 2 weeks cycles then youd cycle to the lower dose the week before ovulation which doesn't make sense to me
AnonI'm using the hcg for two weeks up though the three days my wife is ovulating. Then once she stops I stop the hcg. So hopefully that's enough use to spike spermatogenesis and have an excess of swimmers there when I need them there. Also there is no Domestic Src who has HMG I'm using HCG mostly because I got a shitload of it.
That makes sense. Also Last I checked our num 1 had HMG. & why does it have to be domestic??
AnonI feel ya. It doesn't have to be domestic.
I would love to see the out come of this bro. What I like most about u is that you are always thinking out side of the box and bring new things to this site +2
AnonMan I'm hoping to see some bambinos come out if this. Hopefully Compa
This is a awesome post. So glad you posted it.
AnonThanks bro. You're the reason I'm sharing it. It's awkward for me sharing this part of my life. Sometimes it feels wrong. I'm a very private person but if this thing works.... Who knows who else it can help. We don't talk enough about this shit.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkA lot of people are in the same boat. The research you have done is priceless.