posted Mon, 01/16/2012 - 01:33
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I'd like to see some feedback from those of you who have experience using Mast. If you've used it solo (or with a prop) please let me know how you liked it. Did you like it, what were the benefits, the negs? How long did it take you to see results?
I'm probably going to kick some in at the 2nd half of my run this year to finish up on, and want to see what others experienced. I can read all day long on articles, but from trolling on here, I know who knows whats up and trust the opinion of the vets here.
Let me go farther by asking that this stays pretty much to a sharing of personal experiences with the cycle. Thanks again folks for making this site so valuable!
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I just started Mast Prop...probably just going 4-6 weeks to see how my body react. Is 300mg/wk split into 3 doses enough ?
mazarThats a really low dose, have you ever tried proviron? If you were to take 50mg proviron ed you would get the same results as 300mg-350mg of masteron per week, which are not something to shout about. I would say try 450mg at least.
i do have proviron but dun wanna do so many orals and i wanna see how i react to masteron. ok, will bump it up so 2 vials can last me 5 wks, enuth to test it out.
mazarDidnt mean to add proviron to your stack is just 300mg of masteron wont be different than 350mg of proviron results wise. Bump it up i am sure you wont regret it.
Ok but i am running var and winny too...dats y i am thinking is it wise to hit hard on masteron.
mazarYou are running oral var and inj winny or both orals? If you are running those you dont really need the masteron, i found them both stronger than masteron they would mask any effect you will get from it. Also with so many dht compounds you have to watch for shedding best leave masteron out winstrol is hard enough on the hairline.
both orals. i just wanna try masteron. guess just 1 last jab...can feel the orals toll on me. after this cycle, i am staying clean til august or so, never going bk to winny again. thanks for the advice !
mazarI found winstrol and anavar oral stack to be weak. Inj winstrol with anavar will give you dramatic/fantastic results. If you change anything i would just swap the oral winstrol for injectable. I would still leave the masteron out though. Good luck with whatever you do and make sure you run a tonne of liver protection.
Thanks, i do not drink so isn't so bad. Got liv-52 with me.
ROT is don't run more than 60mg orals for max 6 weeks. I know some do more, but I have my liver values tested post cycle, and all have returned to complete normal falling under those max doses/duration.
I've run Liv52 and Cycle Assist for liver protection. I don't know what is the science behind them, but they seem to work so far.
Anyone use Masteron E with test E? If so what were your results like and did you still have to use an AI?
mazarYou would still have to use an AI unless you are like really low in bf and you know for a fact you dont aromatize much. Dont count masteron as an AI no matter what the ester.
Good question.
This is great feedback. It seems like this may be better for me than Tren. I'm sitting at 10.7 percent bf as of 2 weeks ago, and will test agin Friday to see where I stand. Looking to hit this around mid March, so I should be plenty lean by then. You all are great for being honest, and putting quality feedback in this thread. I hope someone else curious about the substance can benefit the way I have.
Can I ask you all though, what was your dose like? I'll probably do a Prop version. Mazar did 400mg, so I'm assuming he ran 100mg eod. What about the rest of you? Mazar- I wonder if your gear was dosed correctly? Not trying to debunk your source at all, but that could have been the case. I always wonder about the potency of this stuff.
mazarI run 2.5 weeks of axio which was great and potent and then i switched to lixus for 3 weeks which i think was under maybe up to 50% under. I will still give another try on the compound i just failed to see its anabolic effects even when i was using axio. As far as recovery goes and aggression i didn't get much from it. My workouts became longer and recovery was slow comparing say to winny or anavar. I think the problem was that i was coming off from a long/strong cycle and i was too catabolic anyway to notice results. The androgenic effect was profound it is just the anabolic effect that let me down. My bf at the time was around 7% (calipers) so i don't think that was an issue. Also i think the more mast the better, at 600mg+ it supposed to give dramatic results which i failed to see at 400mg. Try 500mg and if you are not burned out like i was you might get good results.
I used Geneza Mast200. It has 150mg en and 50mg prop. I pinned 3ml/wk split m-w-f. Just to get something from the prop ester. It did the trick. My body fat was around 14% and I still got great results. The skin really tightens up and got super thin bro. Best I've ever looked as far as tightness in appearance. Worst part was that I did notice my hair thinned a bit. Ran it 8wks at the end of a cycle.
Frankiemasteron is a dht steroid just like winstrol ,not as strong as winstrol but still is a great compound,like a couple of people have said it can have effect on mood and can effect bp for some but overall it gives great hardness and nice lean gains ,i like the shorter prop version (masteron prop) along side test prop
150mgs every other day pf mast prop along side 200mgs test prop eod for around 8 weeks will give some great gains ...
i will add that the lower the body fat the better the gains imo as it gives a super hard look that really comes out when sitting a sub 10% body fat
mazarDidn't do it for me for some reason the libido was ok, a bit better than proviron but as far as physical results go i didn't get much for my buck. Hardening was ok but i can get better results from a bit of anavar. Winstrol is even better, masteron is good for libido for the most part. Used it with tprop (450mg tprop, 400mg mast p) as a tapper for 5-6 weeks. Libido effect was almost instant and results came after about 2 weeks. Took about the same time to loose those results. Maybe my dose was too low.
What i dont like about mast is the quality of intercourse, yes you get a nice stiffy but quality/sensitivity suffers. Made me feel really good though mood wise probably cause i was thinking about sex all day long.
AnonRan Mast P with Test P end of cycle last summer. Mast is not a "feel good" compound for me but hardened me up in 5 weeks I was ready to come off. BP, night sweats and running hot 24-7.
Running Mast P, Tren A and Test P now...BP, body temp and can't sleep well. I am in fact an oil slick, wound tight with BP jacked right now.
Less then one week in I am like a rock, Mast and strength not so much but seems I can longer than when on the Tren only.
Pros: Rock hard, sex drive, hard hitting training and definitely burning energy and keeping muscle :-)
Cons: Poor sleep, elevated BT, BP, and irritated :-(
Exact kind of feedback I'm looking for. Thank you. Elevated BT...what exactly do you mean by that? What's BT?
BT= body temp
Ok, ive never ran mast but personally know ppl that have. Ive never met anyone that said they didnt like it. But know this, mast works best if you are under 10% BF to start with, and if your prone to androgenic sides such as hair loss, u may want to reconsider unless you have some propecia on hand. If u are a good candidate for mast, then use it with prop, if u run a whole cycle, use the enanthate ester, or use the propionate ester for the last 4-6 wks of a test E/C cycle, or you could just run the test prop and mast prop together for 8-10 wks, thats a good one. It will harden u up like crazy and your veins will pop out all over. My buddy I train with says mast prop is his fav secondary compound l, and I see why, when hes on it he looks like a bodybuilder, and his muscles are literally always hard to the touch, im about 6.5% BF so ill be adding some next cycle instead of messin with tren
Thanks for that feedback. Great info for sure! How long does your buddy hold those results after he's off?
When hes off the vascularity is the first to die down a bit, but he manages to keep that hard look, hes constantly changing his routine tho and stays in the gym (not over doing it tho) so that plays a factor, as does with any gains from all compounds.