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Hi, I have a question about higher strength injectables, do they work as you think they should? I am interested in using them for the first time but am unsure whether they actually have the desired effect or if they cause problems that take away from the purpose of a higher dose per ml.

For example Sustanon 250 vs Sustanon 400

What are your thoughts?

THESTRONGEST's picture

doc at hrt clinic says its physically impossible to get more than 200mg of test cypionate in a cc of oil , "impossible he says he claims any product that says it contains more than 200mg of cypionate in a cc is fraud, is that true , ?

Greg's picture

No. but, higher amounts can be less stable and crash. Different fluids can suspend different amounts of solids.
Your Clinic doc is not taking into account the ingenuity of UGL's

Eagles 2013's picture

They are only necessary for high dosage, advanced cycles for users who have been in the game for years and need to use higher concentrations to reduce the total volume of oil injected. They are no more or less effective than lower concentration gear on a mg to mg basis.

TBF's picture

To reduce the pip, it is ideal to mix with masteron or npp 100mg.

You have injected 2ml of 250mg of test, so 500mg over 2ml. The concentration of 500 is diluted to 2 ml. But a testo at 500 for 1ml is more concentrated and will therefore hurt more.
This is done to be mixed and reduce the volume to be injected.

So, If you do 1ml of test 500 with 1ml of 100mg Mast propionate you have a concentration of 600mg for 2ml ... This is more reasonable but there are still chances of pain.

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Achak's picture

I personally like higher concentrations because I want to inject less oil per injection. The downside of higher concentrations is usually PIP due to the higher percentage of solvents. I am not very sensitive so it doesn't bother me. It really comes down to the user. One isn't necessarily better than the other. If you are stacking compounds or taking high dosages, then go for the higher concentration products. Also take into account you'll save money over the course of a cycle buying higher mg products.

asidphreak's picture

My experience is only with Test C 200 / 250 / 500 mg/mL.

Zero pip with 200/250, with the 500 though, it felt like Hercules himself went to town on whatever poor muscle I jabbed that shit into.

Not worth it in my opinion. They guys here helped me figure that mess out.

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press1's picture

If you are experienced and tend to run big cycles then the main advantage to the higher concentration compounds is you can get more in the barrel mixed in with the others. This cuts down on the amount of pinning needed. However if you are still running normal doses then you are best sticking with normal concentration gear as you'll generally get little to no pip with it. Often as with the sustanon examples there you will find the makeup of esters will be different - the 250mg will include all the original prop, phenyl, isocap etc whereas the newer 400 ones are mainly prop, cyp and enanth.

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press1's picture

Why are you continually throwing peoples Stats around and belittling them considering how appalling yours are?

220lb's @ 5'4, 20% Plus BF with a history of big health scares?!

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press1's picture

Yes I have already seen his stats - I was answering his question on oil concentrations.

Don't f'kin start getting clever with me anytime soon.

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press1's picture

You don't run steroids or lift weights. Your answers are purely regurgitated information others have written. Go crawl back under the rock you've been hiding under for the last 6 months burger turd.

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press1's picture

I love it when members who have been Banned multiple times, for extensive periods come back on after getting their accounts back and tell us how to behave and how responsible they are.

Didn't you use to be the head of a very large karma upvoting ring a few years back rusty? Also when you were a mod didn't you use to ban people for nothing more than the fact that you personally didn't like them?

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giardap's picture

Hi dose test hurts.
Hi dose deca doesnt.
But thats not what you are asking...
Yes and no is the answer. There can be higher returns, but the body fights against that and so, ther are higher sides.

But you are 6.3 and skinny af. not an insult, you look good, no homo... But you have wayyyy more room to put meat on before playing with high doses.
Food is your friend.

DbolAndAll's picture

6'3 84kg, im 5'7 @ 92kg right now, you NEED FOOD, steroids wont work without food. Take 1g test 750mg tren and eat 2k calories you will not get as big as me if I were to do 3500kal on 250 test 350npp

JL's picture

Based on your stats. You will gain more strength from proper nutrition then you will get from any amount of gear. Gear only amplifies the effects of proper training and diet. Waste of gear and your health with out food to grow!

IrishMack's picture

The best answer anyone could have given was, "buy it and try it, let us know how it worked out."

Makwa's picture

YEP! LOL!

puregoals's picture

Thank you and I will let you know how it goes

SegaKid87's picture

Nice bang of pip incoming.. Regular is better, but so is knowledge you can't beat abit of understanding what the hell your doing. Does help.

puregoals's picture

I've injected 2ml of 250mg in one shot before and had no problems with a larger shot this is why I am thinking a higher dosed 1ml shot of 400mg might be better? I think I just need to order and try

Halsey's picture

I always thought that pip was one of the big problems for high concentrations. Everybody is different.

Sumatra_Triangle's picture

Everyone is different.

Different drugs effect different people differently.

Just pushing more drugs at higher levels won't yield greater results by itself. you work out very hard and eat very well amd then see the results.