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child after long Steroid usage

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Hi guys!

I run Test , Deca and Drol/Dbol as basic roids since more than 7 years (with 2 successful PCTs). Now I run Test and Deca since 2 years (blast and cruise) Deca is neccessary cause my elbow surgery. Now my wife and I have the wish to get a 2nd child.

Can I cruise now low Test and run Tamox and HCG to get "ready" again or do I have already bigger probs to make her pregnant?

A few facts:

Regular cycle: 1000 Test, 400-600 Deca, 60dbol or 50 drol ed, sometime 300mg Mast E with the cycle, 10IU HGH

In the past: 1500 Test, 800 Deca, 100dbol (bulking 2016-2017 , 289lbs)

Comp: 50-200 Test P , 100-150 mast P and 50-75mg Tren ed

Cruise: 200mg Cyp, 150mg Deca , 5IU HGH

50mg Provi ed all year round.

Please no neg. comments, I know many cycles too high & long but I want to mention that other blood levels were always good!(heart, liver, kidneys ....)

Please let me know a few PCT examples to get good sperm again so that my lady gets pregnant again. Or even possible to run low Test with HCG to get active sperm cells again?

november1's picture

Soo.
This has been my biggest concern.
I had ran more or less heavy cycle with few compounds, and got natural test really low. Sperm count was down, really down plus genetics of mine and early alcohol and drug abuse led my motility to suffer.

I managed to get numbers up by usiimg right supplements for male fertility from.Germany. solid company really good quality products.
Also i run Clomid 6 weeks . That's one of known courses man can do to boost little fuckers.
I did test. Went to doctor. Ball doctor i call him.
And yes. I was way better that 3 .months before test.
I managed to get my woman pregnant, but then faking covid stole, lost job, lot of stress, we got stuck in quarantine and lost the baby.
But yes.

Right approach and you can do it.

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press1's picture

'Ball doctor I call him' - LMAO

Sorry you lost the baby mate :(

november1's picture

When the guy is litteraly doctor of the ballzies. Hehe.
Edgar the ball whisperer.

But yeah. Life man. Can't win all the battles. Life goes on.
Next one is mine. For now I can only try to get my hand pregnant.hehe

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press1's picture

Do you know how to work the 'Track' function mate?

Click on track under my name on my profile page and you can see all the topics I am involved in. Click on any of those and you'll see them come up in your own track :-))

Tradesman34's picture

Hope all works out for you bro... I've had a child while on cycle if that means anything, so it deff is possible to achieve. Lmao btw some of these comments below have me lmfao.. Peace hope all works out for you.

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KMC's picture

Did he ever send nude pictures of his wife, we just want to make sure she is breedable.

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LilyLambert's picture

I think it's not the best way to use steroids if you are waiting for a child. In this way, you could harm the health of your little kid. I would advise you to start taking a vitamin course for pregnant persons

press1's picture

Folic acid is the main Vitamin women need during pregnancy (B9)

warpAqualung's picture

Go to fertility specialists, no shame on that.

Tell them about steroid use, they know better than any of us here.

Even if you lose some muscle by stopping gear, the kid will bring you way more happiness than bench pressing 10 plates. And you can come back at any time anyways.

Best of luck and keep us informed.

press1's picture

UUuuffff I'm not so sure about that!!! Lol

A Baby more fun than benching 500?!?

I guess someone will have to chime in who has achieved both .....

press1's picture

Is this a typo? lol

Bill1976's picture

Seriously though. There is so much technology put that you will be able to have a child most likely. I have a ten month old baby. You will love it so much. Get use to the show little baby bum. Babies love it.

Bill1976's picture

The damn songs get stuck in my head at work.

Bill1976's picture

Your baby is gonna come out like this.

Nicolai's picture

Hey broski. Here's a few things that help and dont require pinning. D Asparic acid, which is found in sperm and the nuts. There's some studies about it raising sperm count. Vitamin D & C help with the quality/motility of your sperm. Zinc is essential also and try not to drink up so much during this period. The last thing is I know you're focused on you, but having the Mrs. take something to ovulate/stimulate her own fertility could help too. Best of luck bro.

stairmaster's picture

Thanks bro, good infos!

Nicolai's picture

Just trying to help a broski out.

KMC's picture

You will probably need to name any resulting offspring Arnold.

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stairmaster's picture

Sure bro we've an app and a lot Sex, maybe it works even without any medication , I make a sperm test next week. We'll see what it shows Smile

Drock_357's picture

Brutha stair.....I wish u the best in recovering your baby batter to potent levels...I’m no expert in this but looks like some members have u assisted down below...however, if all else fails,.. hit me up, I’m fortunate to have the “super sperm” gene....I’d be happy to make a deposit in a Sterile 10 mg vile and ship it to you no cost!..Make no mistake, I’m a sexy mf that wins EVERYTIME at scrabble and donkey Kong!...so the genetics are there!...
Just trying to throw some humor out there bro, no offense to you or your family....sincerely wish you the best!

Achak's picture

Here are things that work for increasing sperm count. IF this doesn't work then I don't know what will.

Proviron, HCG and Clomid are the trifecta for prescription medication.

Herbs: Maca Root, Ashwagandha, Tribulus Terrestris, Chlorophytum arundinaceum, Hygrophila Seed Extract and Crocus sativus, Ginseng, Horny Goat Weed, and Saw Palmetto

Vitamin C, D, E, Zinc, L-Carnitine, L-Arginine, coenzyme-Q10

Zalewski's picture

I’m a young guy without kids but I’ll just say what the Anabolic Doc on YouTube said since this is what he deals with a lot, essentially if you’ve been doing some PCTs as you have and then run hcg, you typically can get back to being fertile, the issue comes when someone has been doing gear for 20 years, no time off, then at 40 or older, want a kid. You being 35 has some concern but sincerely I don’t think it’ll be that bad if you just run your HCG correctly, try what GrowMore said and do 250IU a day, then the Anabolic Doc said he had to increase doses for people depending on their response, sometimes getting to 1000IUs EOD, you’ve gotta play around with it some. Roider007 and giardap mentioned using HMG, which has been shown to also be effective, so utilize that along with other compounds to insure your best result

stairmaster's picture

Thanks for all the help and great comments guys!

Is this an option:

200mg Cyp week (cruising)
1-6 week HCG 3x1500IU/week
1-6 week Tamox 10mg/day
8-11 week Clomid 50mg/day

if not any better ideas?

Thank u giardap I'll read it.

Flash, which dosages would u recommend here.

Bearded_muscle's picture

Keep an eye on estro, not sure if you’re used to running HCG frequently or not but if you aren’t you’ll notice it creeps up a lot faster on hcg than off.

stairmaster's picture

OK I'll do a blood check before and after 2 weeks, if neccessary I add Aro. Thanks for the advice bro.

PPGfreak's picture

Dave Polumbo has a great protocol that people swear by

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GrowMore's picture

A year and then 3 years blasting and cruising and I managed to have 2 children with the help of HCG 250iu Ed for 2/3 weeks. One was at the end of a Tren blast. I stayed on TRT the whole time.

Steroids can make you infertile temporarily but even if you don’t use any drugs you’ll go back firing shots in time. I think some users like to say it makes you infertile to defend their ego that they probably couldn’t have children to start with.

Sam I Am's picture

This is why we call you “Growmore”
Nohomo

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stairmaster's picture

lol

Sam I Am's picture

Both of my children were conceived while I was in cycle.

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GrowMore's picture

Were you on TRT? If so how long for?

Sam I Am's picture

The first one no. The second one atleast three years.

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GrowMore's picture

You dirty dog!

Eagles 2013's picture

It is certainly possible,especially with modern medicine. I know a few guys who have still had kids after years of irresponsible prohormone/steriod use (not saying you are irresponsible, but some of my friends were!). I am not sure where you are located and the local healthcare infrastructure there, but would it be possible to get a baseline sperm count and meet with an endo to honestly discuss your past use and the possibility of conception?

Good luck and congrats on growing your family!

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stairmaster's picture

Thank u bud!

Roider007's picture

Here a protocol i used and it worked out perfect bro.
I came off all gear because whilst i stayed on i couldnt ever get wife pregnant levels are too supressed and just doesnt happen for some. I personaly ran a power pct protocol hcg , clomid , nolva for first 45day 2 wks after last shot of test. During this time i also ran hgh 4 iu throughout to help with muscle and recovery aswell. But once i finished pct i went a month just clean which was difficult as felt i wasnt fully recovered after very long year of aas but kept myself positive. During this pct period dont try to concieve as you can with your lh and fsh levels high but with my experiance chances of pregnancy can happen but very high risk chance of miscarriages happened twice with us. So best to try after pct give body about a month clean and second month before her ovulation 2 wks before i ran another short pct just to boost my levels after alot research i did hmg 75iu mwf with hcg 500ius mwf along with 50mg clomid daily and got the day of her ovulation with the test kit and boom it happened everything worked out perfect.

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giardap's picture

Congrats on your upcoming shagging sessions!

Sure can! The right protocol works for more than 90% of people.
My Mrs. managed to get pregnant twice thanks to me using hcg and then hcg+hmg

Check my hcg101 post in pct forum for a fertility protocol.

Any questions at all just ping me man

Bearded_muscle's picture

As usual G is steering in the right direction. I would alternate days of hcg and hmg, m/w/f and tue/thur/sat respectively (or however you like).

I’d also personally run a low dose of aromasin throughout and probably clomid at as close to 50mgs a day as I could as long as I didn’t have side effects.

Keep a little cialis on hand just in case as you won’t be able to just jack up the test like usual if the D isn’t working right.

This is one of those few areas where I’d rather take the shotgun approach and do whatever I could to get it done as fast as possible, as opposed to the slow and steady route I usually take with anabolics.

press1's picture

I'd really like to try HGH at the level you run it at but just don't know how to afford to. What are the main benefits you personally get from it mate? Sorry bud, as you know PCT advice isn't my forte ....

stairmaster's picture

Its hard to say, u feel much better, better mood, your immune system is very good, you feel full, more muscle details visible, better sleep , and so on!

press1's picture

Do you find your joints and tendons heal quicker such as shoulders when lifting heavy?

stairmaster's picture

yes and my stomach issue, reflux, is gone...no idea if from the gh or from the nexium I use.

press1's picture

Wow mate that's Awesome news! :-)

I bet the world seems like a different place now that's gone.

TheFlash85's picture

For fertility purpose yes, keep your trt dose test going.

Hcg
Colmid
Nolva
Aromasin.

That is the drugs required for you to conceive.
6 weeks to start with and see how you go, if not take 4 weeks off and run again for 6 weeks.

steroidmen's picture

Very interesting . Wait for expirences response .