+ 7 “Most Bodybuilders Eat Too Many Damm Carbs” Bill Phillips
Years ago I was reading a magazine Muscle Media 2000 published by Bill Phillips who was the founder of EAS supplements. The Mag was great and hardcore.
In an article Phillips said “Most bodybuilders eat too many damm carbs”. He had a picture in the article of a muscular guy with a big belly. That thought has rung through my head ever since. One reason is that I know I'm guilty of it!
How many times do we go through pictures here at eroids to see guys on a bulk looking huge, but sucking in a massive gut? Too often!
Try as we must not to get fat we turn to lean bulks, but somehow it remains a problem for many of us including me. Of course if your young with a fast metabolism this doesn't apply to you. However, if you battle the bulge it surely does.
One of the issues is appetite! After a workout I could eat the dumbbells I just lifted. Testosterone and many other compounds give me an enormous hunger for food! Not good!
We try to get our Macros right but somehow our gut says too many carbs! So one recommendation I have is when your laying out a bulk cycle and you figure your macros simply cut the carbs by roughly 15%. Hopefully this will help.
Another suggestion is to drink lots of water to kill appetite! Water is a great appetite suppressant. Fiber is another good appetite killer so add some fiber! Now I have to follow my own advice!
We cycle carbs on off days and that helps. Anything we can do to avoid the gut. Oh how we hate to have to get rid of it.
I had a great protein bar 2:1 bars and sadly they don't make them anymore. The bar had fiber was very low carb and had great whey isolate in it. Too bad most bars and shakes are like eating a Three Musketeers!
Some guys throw a lil T3 into the bulking cycle to try to burn of some extra fat. All these things are wonderful, but the bottom line is you can't eat too many damm carbs! It's tough!
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IT raises metabolism rather than induces lipolysis, therfore; it eats muscle in it's entirety by metabolising carbs, fats, existing protein and fluids (i.e. muscle). It is also a taboo topic around here, but I dont think John was advocating it.
I do not restrict carbs. I love potatoes and pasta too much. Lasagna, chicken Alfredo, chicken parmesan,. Mashed potatoes with garlic butter, and oh my g hash browns. I'd starve to death if I couldn't eat carbs. I guess I'm on a constant bulk
Me too mate, I love them and think they form a very important part of building muscle. If you don't consume enough your body is only going to burn away hard earned muscle anyway to feed and energize itself. If you run a fast metabolism you need them way more also like myself, otherwise you feel like death and have no energy to do anything. To me protein is twice as effective and anabolic with carbs as opposed to on its own.
I did a low carb day yesterday and felt like death, grumpier than my old lady once a month.
Compounds we never discuss here combined with a diet filled with excess calories is what causes the abnormal and unsightly "Palumbo gut"
Carbs are a bodybuilders friend. However, albiet carbs "that work". Processed white flour carbs are simply not the same as rice per say. One digests easy and effortless while the processed products form a sludge paste in your internals. As they say it is apples vs oranges. And speaking of fruits .... (no homo)
Figure in a lack of fruit and naturally occuring dietary fiber and you have a real gut issue brewing.
Not too mention that orals too also contain lactose in them which in volume will cause gut trouble over time.
For optimum gut health I always include following whole food suppliments. All natural organic Apple Cider Vinegar with mother & All natural sauerkraut like Bubbies.
I do like to incorporate lots of nutrient dense cruciferous vegetables.
And remember that everything that is old is now new again.
You can never go wrong when learning about the Golden Age and "The Guru" Vince Gironda . He advocated a meat and eggs diet. However with those meals he would always include a serving of either pineapple, mango, or papaya to naturally aid in digestion.
Ironically I was actually reading a load of Palumbo articles last night and man could that guy eat!! There is a famous example of his daily diet floating about online and he was banging away 6 cheeseburgers and fries at a time, and that featured more like just a snack in it all lol.
He also really was heavily into his ahem...Naughty anabolics also wasn't/isn't he..
When someone says they went to Mcdonalds every day of thier bodybuilding career & in the same sentence they say they never turned pro.
My response is " Cool Story, Bro "
jayiskPalumbo ran a ridiculous amount of growth, slin, and gear. In his case that had more to do with his gut. He also coached Boston Lyod who spent his days injecting himself all day long with large amounts of everything. Have you seen Palumbo he looks like death.
I know the article is on BB. But if you're into power lifting or strongman you need carbs. Look at some of the elite raw power lifters they eat a lot of carbs. and a lot of them look like bodybuilders. Now I'm not saying eat whatever shit you feel like. but eat has many carbs that you can get away with if you want to be your strongest. just dont let it be an excuse to get fat. if you cant tie your shoes without getting winding and sweating than obv. you cut back on carbs.
bodybuilding is a different story. but carbs are still not the enemy.
As Dave Tate owner of Elitefts said "the barbell doesnt care if you have abs, and the bodybuilding judge doesnt care how much you bench."
Palumbo doesn't even look like the same person anymore does he - well apart from his face! Half the size he was if that literally. Still credit to him, he was a massive guy for those days. Bloody hell Boston Lloyd eh? Whatever happened to him...
jayiskaccording to Boston's youtube vids all he doses is sit at home with his girlfriend and dogs.
He spends his days eating, pinning every part of his body with growth, slin, gear, peptides,etc.., he does online training including gear cycles, has a peptide site, and goes to the gym.
he said he doesnt like to be out because he is OCD and has anxiety.
Funny he admits that he took way too much PED's and extremely high dosages and that the exp. gym person would be good with around a gram of test and like 600 mg of deca. which is surprising he recommends a lower dose cycle.
Boston doesnt even look the part for the amount of shit he is on.
This is all wonderful and well written, however thesis a generalized article. Everyone is different and has different issues.
Good carbs are fattening; just not as much so as simple ones. Fruit which i love is high fructose and although that's not as bad as sucrose it is sugar.
So, we all do our best but getting a paunch is a problem for a lot of us! I didn't mention cardio but it is a very effective weapon in the war on fat!
Thank you for your response. I really apperciate the comment.
You are correct Cardio is a great weapon against fat.
I will say, however Generalized Information I have found in my expierence is not so generally known.
Every person's goal should be to understand ones self.
As per your mention of carbs.
Good carbs are "fattening" only when in surplus. As are excess calories in general.
Per my experience , A serving of whole fruit pineapple , mango, or papaya per high protein high fat meal
will not do much of anything in regards to blood sugar fluctuation.
Other's experiences will vary.
As we all should know what we think of as sugar & sugar sources certainly are all not cut from the same cloth.
Also , for thought, would one be more worried about the few servings of whole natural fruit a day for health and digestive purposes or the pounds of dead meat being consumed a day?