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Test-e / winny first cycle

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

Current stats - 26 years old, 6ft, 195lb, 6+ years lifting exp, 11% bf.

Expectations - Roughly 15lb of lean mass. Realistic?

Concerns - First cycle, so my initial reaction to certain compounds may be a cause for concern. Pinning is a slight worry (not due to any lack of research). Also would like some specific oppinions on two subjects; My aromasin dosage and its continued use during pct. My winstrol dosage and its continued usage for 2 weeks after my last test shot, to bridge the pre-pct gap.

I know a lot of people are against winstrol and see it as pointless to a large degree, but the main reason i'm using it is because I have a reliable and cheap source so thought why not. Open to criticism's, thanks.

PCT is starting 2 weeks after last test shot/1 day after last winstrol tab btw, I assumed there could be confusion judging by table layout.

WeekTestosterone-EAromasinWinstrolNolvadexClomid
1500mg
2500mg
3500mg12.5mg ED
4500mg12.5mg ED
5500mg12.5mg ED
6500mg12.5mg ED
7500mg12.5mg ED
8500mg12.5mg ED
9500mg12.5mg ED50mg ED
10500mg12.5mg ED50mg ED
11500mg12.5mg ED50mg ED
12500mg12.5mg ED50mg ED
1312.5mg ED50mg ED
1412.5mg ED50mg ED
1512.5mg ED20mg ED100mg ED
1612.5mg ED20mg ED100mg ED
176.25mg ED10mg ED50mg ED
186.25mg ED10mg ED50mg ED
m0rts's picture

Thanks mate, was just doing some research on it before I also adjusted the nolva dose. Will edit now.

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ty for replies.

OmNom's picture

aromasin has a half life a little less than a day so I find ED dosages are better but just cut dosage in half or less. I think you will do fine without winstrol, you will get a better idea of how you react to testosterone alone if you run just that this cycle. Why not just save up the winny for your next cycle, that way you know what does what by cycle 3.. If you HAVE to do it then I'd say take off 2 weeks and leave it at 4 weeks of winny. Everything looks good for the most part.. 15lbs of lean body mass is pretty tough it'll depend on your diet

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OK, ty for reply. My aromasin tabs are 25mg which is the main reason i chose to dose EoD. Also in regards to changing it to only 4 weeks of winny, do you have any oppinion on bridging the 2 week gap pre-pct and starting it at week 11 or keeping the 2 weeks substance-free and running winny from weeks 9-12

OmNom's picture

You can just take a razor or pill cutter and cutem in half.. The half life is a day so you'll get more stable blood levels with ED dosages with a lower dose

HllwdBdBoy's picture

Yup, drop winny replace with prop Smile

Directionz's picture

I would have to agree with 1jak, drop the winny on your first cycle.

OmNom's picture

Yup best thing is to just use test. I dose exemstane at 12.5 ed but some guys can get away with half of that dose and be fine.. Your AI dosages will all depend on mid cycle blood tests so you know what needs to be changed. Using exemstane with your PCT is a lil more advanced and you prlly won't need it for your first cycle's PCT since it's just test