posted Fri, 01/02/2015 - 17:45
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Test E, Test P, Mast E, Var
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Gain 15Lbs Lean Mass and drop bodyfat from 11ish to 8-7%
AI will be used as needed because Mast will do part of the AI Job
PCT 4 Days after last Test P pin 100-40 10 Days, 50-20 10 days
| Week | Test E | Test P | Mast E | Var | AI | Nolva | Clomid |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1000mg | 400mg | .5mg EOD | ||||
| 2 | 500mg | 400mg | .5mg EOD | ||||
| 3 | 500mg | 400mg | .5mg EOD | ||||
| 4 | 500mg | 400mg | .5mg EOD | ||||
| 5 | 500mg | 400mg | .5mg EOD | ||||
| 6 | 500mg | 400mg | .5mg EOD | ||||
| 7 | 500mg | 400mg | .5mg EOD | ||||
| 8 | 500mg | 400mg | .5mg EOD | ||||
| 9 | 500mg | 400mg | .5mg EOD | ||||
| 10 | 500mg | 400mg | 75mg ED | .5mg EOD | |||
| 11 | 500mg | 400mg | 75mg ED | .5mg EOD | |||
| 12 | 500mg | 400mg | 75mg ED | .5mg EOD | |||
| 13 | 100mg EOD | 75mg ED | .5mg EOD | ||||
| 14 | 75mg EOD | 75mg ED | .5mg EOD | ||||
| 15 | 50mg EOD | 75mg ED | .5mg EOD | ||||
| 16 | 40 | 100 | |||||
| 17 | 40 | 100 | |||||
| 18 | 20 | 50 |
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I agree with Pin, you have to decide really, cut or bulk, to eat clean and enough to gain 15 pounds will be challenging, and the age thing and no history... I would skip the front load with Test E also, if you front load, go with Prop or dont do it at all.
Try using Proviron instead of Mast , 50mg ED entire cycle,NO AI then bloods after 3 weeks go from there with your AI, you might not need to add anything. Mast will keep your E in check but outside of that your BF is too high to gain much use from it IMO. ...Keep It Simple . Eat good, and frequently and you will be happy.
Im no gear expert but 11% body fat to high?? Nahh dude I think your good. Clean your diet up, increase the cardio.Dont frontload the test like that. Either use the prop at 100mg eod first 3 weeks or just pin 500mg e throughout whole cycle. U could also do the same thing for the end of the cycle.. Prop 100mg eod last 3 weeks .Run the var for 2 weeks after the the last e inject. Or run it 3 more days after the last p. Depending on what u decide to do. Start ur pct day after last dose of Var. runI it. I'll interested in how your progress.
On second glance Id run both mast e and test e to week 12 and taper to week 15 with PCT starting 3-5 days after that
Stop the mast with the test, add another week for the PCT (in my opinion), no need to do 50mgs the first week with var go straight 75 through, and begin PCT 3-5 days after last prop shot should be good to go..
Do you have AI experience? May not even need an AI, or atleast not that high of a dose.
Should I lower the dose ED or just run .5 armidex EOD
EOD since adex has a pretty substantial half life compared to most AIs
If you start experiencing low estro sides I'd bump it down to .25 EOD or even .5 e3d
Flip can you give me real answer to why everyone is anti Mast but people who use it love it?
I want something that will keep bloat down and give me real hardness but so many people are anti-Mast without giving a real reason.
Well if this is your first cycle people will be anti mast because if you come across sides like hair loss or increase urination then youre not sure if thats from the test or the mast or even the var. If you have done a test cycle before I see nothing wrong with it.
A lot of people dont like mast because they see it as a precontest agent and thus "useless" in a typical cycle. I think that is just parroting. I have seen many logs where people love mast, the hardness it gives, the strength increases, the general feeling it promotes. I have seen people get away with less AI because of it but others still use the same amount..
It is well known to cause pretty notable hair loss in prone individuals. This is another reason why people don't like it.
I see it usually a 50/50 split on people who have used it and people who havent typically say no go.
Me personally, I have never tried it but I like the wya it sounds.
Thanks for the insight brother.... I don't want the bodybuilder bulk thats why I think I will like it.