Test E and NPP Cycle, feedback wanted
Hey guys,
I'm planning my next cycle and would like to get some feedback before I start.
This will be my 4th cycle and I'm currently cruising on 150mg TestE/week.
Notes:
• I will do a blood test in week 5 to check levels and adjust if necessary.
• I already know which supplements I’ll be using during the cycle.
• Open to opinions on whether Cabergoline is preferable to Bromocriptine.
• Also want to hear thoughts on combining Tadalafil with Telmisartan (40mg/day).
• No PCT as I will go back to cruising
Looking for feedback on:
1. Overall cycle structure (doses, duration).
2. AI and prolactin management (Aromasin + Bromocriptine vs. Cabergoline)(Also not sure about the Aromasin dose)
3. Health support (is Telmisartan a smart addition here?).
4. Any adjustments you’d recommend before starting.
The reason for the MK is because I struggle to eat a lot of food without it, even on AAS, but only 10mg a day works great for me.
I've never taken Tadalafil but I heard it's great during cycles for blood pressure control and pumps.
Thanks in advance for any input!
| Week/Product | Testosterone Enanthate | NPP | Aromasin | Bromocriptine | HCG | Tadalafil | MK677 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 400mg/week | 400mg/week | 5mg/day | 10mg/day | |||
| 2 | 400mg/week | 400mg/week | 5mg/day | 10mg/day | |||
| 3 | 400mg/week | 400mg/week | 10mg/day | 2.5mg/day | 1000IU/week | 5mg/day | 10mg/day |
| 4 | 400mg/week | 400mg/week | 10mg/day | 2.5mg/day | 1000IU/week | 5mg/day | 10mg/day |
| 5 | 400mg/week | 400mg/week | 10mg/day | 2.5mg/day | 1000IU/week | 5mg/day | 10mg/day |
| 6 | 400mg/week | 400mg/week | 10mg/day | 2.5mg/day | 1000IU/week | 5mg/day | 10mg/day |
| 7 | 400mg/week | 400mg/week | 10mg/day | 2.5mg/day | 1000IU/week | 5mg/day | 10mg/day |
| 8 | 400mg/week | 400mg/week | 10mg/day | 2.5mg/day | 1000IU/week | 5mg/day | 10mg/day |
| 9 | 400mg/week | 400mg/week | 10mg/day | 2.5mg/day | 1000IU/week | 5mg/day | 10mg/day |
| 10 | 400mg/week | 400mg/week | 10mg/day | 2.5mg/day | 1000IU/week | 5mg/day | 10mg/day |
| 11 | 400mg/week | 400mg/week | 10mg/day | 2.5mg/day | 1000IU/week | 5mg/day | 10mg/day |
| 12 | 400mg/week | 400mg/week | 10mg/day | 2.5mg/day | 1000IU/week | 5mg/day | 10mg/day |
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Telmisartan is a smart choice when on nandrolone. They’ve done extensive testing on animals on nandrolone and it very quickly causes collegan buildup and cardiac fibrosis and remodeling. Telmisartan seems to potentially mitigate that by blocking the angiotensin II type 1 receptor in cardiac tissue. So that seems like a good preventive measure. Cialis is good too.
What’s the point of HCG since you aren’t doing PCT? If you’re trying to have kids soon I wouldn’t blast. Not everyone has prolactin issues with 19-nors. I never have. B6 or P5P is what I’d start with and keep caber in hand for emergencies. If you need caber to run 19-Nors I wouldn’t run them anymore. Bromo also carries cardiovascular risk like caber. Prami is kind of the lesser of the two but you gotta start low and titrate up or it will make you really sick. I made that mistake before lol.
I took a cycle like this with a bit more
Test though and it actually make me
Pretty shredded fairly quickly. I got the definition and tone without losing the weight. It was great! I only did the test NPP tho. 400/600
Most likely it could have been your diet
I wouldn’t even take an ai for this cycle TBH maybe like 1 a week or something for good measure.
Take p5p preemptively for potential prolactin issues, take the caber or bromo as needed. You def shouldn’t be using them daily, same with ai. Especially if you have no idea what those numbers are.
Dude you’re probably gonna nuke your E2 with that much aromasin for how much test. Leave it on hand instead, you’re only running 400mg of test, may not be needed much. It could POSSIBLY be how much ai you need (super doubtful unless ur a king aromataser) but dealing with crashed e2 is just as bad (imo worse) than high. Please be careful with ai
Agreed, when I crash my E2 below 10-15 I feel that my progress starts going backwards, my muscles are flat, I loose strength, Im more tired and my mood goes to shit. When my E2 creeps too high my strength actually goes up, but I get a little bit of water retention and my definition gets blurry. And of course spicy nips and more emotional but once I see that I can pop some asin and I'm good to go I a day or 2. Coming back from crashed E2 usually takes a week, where as bringing it down is within 2 days. I will say I'm a very low aromatiser, on 400 test and just 100 EQ my E2 dropped to 14, probably lower since my blood work results took 2 weeks that time and I was feeling progressively worse.
yeah I know that's why I said I'm not sure about the AI dose, in my prior cycles I only used 12.5mg twice a week but those were kinda mild cycles