posted Fri, 01/24/2014 - 11:43
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I'm 35 years old, 6-feet tall and 210 pounds. I'd like to add about 25 pounds during the next three months. Here's a bulking cycle I'm considering. It's a 12-week cycle, but the final two weeks would be more like a taper. I also plan to throw in some 50mg TNE pre-workouts on a semi-daily basis, mostly on days that fall between other testosterone injections. I have some Letro, Clomid and Nolvadex on hand just in case. And I'm planning to start 4iu daily injections of Riptropin toward the end of this cycle. I would definitely like some feedback, particularly on the Riptropin aspect because I don't have much experience with hgh. But be nice, dangit.
| Week | Sustanon | Test Prop | Tren A | Tren E | Cabaser | Aromasin | Clomid | Pregnyl |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | 100mg | ||||||
| 2 | 500mg | 100mg | ||||||
| 3 | 500mg | 100mg | 100mg | 100mg | 25mg ed | |||
| 4 | 500mg | 100mg | 100mg | 100mg | 25mg ed | |||
| 5 | 750mg | 200mg | .5mg e3d | 25mg ed | ||||
| 6 | 750mg | 200mg | .5mg e3d | 25mg ed | ||||
| 7 | 750mg | 200mg | .5mg e3d | 25mg ed | ||||
| 8 | 750mg | 200mg | .5mg e3d | 25mg ed | ||||
| 9 | 500mg | 250mg | 200mg | .5mg e3d | 25mg ed | |||
| 10 | 250mg | 250mg | 100mg | .5mg e3d | 25mg ed | |||
| 11 | 400mg | 50mg | .5mg e3d | 25mg ed | 100mg ed | 1000iu e | ||
| 12 | 200mg | 25mg | .5mg e3d | 25mg ed | 100mg ed | 1000iu e | ||
| 13 | .5 mg e3d | 25mg ed | 50mg ed | 1000iu e | ||||
| 14 | 25mg ed | 50mg ed | ||||||
| 15 | 12mg ed | 25mg ed | ||||||
| 16 | 12mg ed | 25mg ed | ||||||
| 17 | 12mg ed | 25mg ed |
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OK, I adjusted my PCT a bit. My HCG regimen was wrong. And I added Clomid to the mix. Any thoughts?
? Why R U running Tren E and A ?
Was thinking the Tren A would start doing its job a bit faster than the Tren E. Kind of like a kickstart and then a taper later on. Is that poor judgement? I'm eager for any advice you could throw at me, Polish.
It would be fair to say you are a "sus" man. You plan on running the sus eod correct?
Yeah, Sustanon has been part of my routine for a while. It's the one constant in my cycles, which makes it easier to pinpoint any variable effects when I make alterations to my stacking combo (almost always a 19-nor). Planning on running the Sustanon every third day for the first month, along with some prop and TNE on the days in between, and then eod for the second month.
Are you a sus man, too?
Not anymore; running it e3d the prop loses its value. I have a couple bottles of it but I'm sitting on them at the moment. My 1st cycle was Sus and pinning eod my 1st cycle truly sucked ass but I got quite a bit from it.
I live on Sust.. Love it e3d... works so nicely.. It does not need to be EOD at all to make great gains...
true; if only they would add phenylprop instead of straight prop then it would be a monster of a cycle you could get away with 3 days all the time. I just got one hell of an idea!
RustyhookerSust has tpp in the 4ester blend which led to many hitting a pin every 3 days. Other route is frontload and rely on long Esters. So yes, many guys can and do suppliment prop into kick because that tiny lil prop in sust doesn't do much. 30Mg isn't even trt doses.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustanon
Yeah, that's not a bad idea: Sustanon with phenylprop. I wonder why that hasn't been tried yet. Or has it?
it would help a lot with pinning, I would start using it again lol
Thanks. It's good to know someone else sees results on e3d. I did it that way for years, and always thought it was working for me because the half-life of the prop is three days. But I figured I'd increase the test a bit this time by going eod when I add tren to the cycle.
I get what you're saying. I always felt relatively sluggish on the third day after a Sustanon injection. I have been using prop in between to overcome that problem. But, if I'm following your logic, I wouldn't have to do that if I went eod on the sus right from the start. Gotcha. I will give that a try.
But I might still boost some extra prop. It's just too much fun. Judging from your past cycles, you wouldn't object to any additional test in my cycle, would you?
I follow the KISS philosophy. If it works for you then by all means do it, but I believe the SUS alone eod will give you what you are looking for
why are you running prop with sust? sust has prop in it
Prop makes up about a quarter of the Sustanon, so I don't get the kind of kick I need at the beginning of the cycle unless I add some additional test. Others would argue that a person doesn't need prop and Sustanon at the beginning of a cycle, but I've been doing it for years and it helps me start significant gains earlier, which allows me to run shorter cycles than I would have to otherwise.
Primarily, though, the 18-day half-life of Sustanon makes it very difficult when coming off cycle, so the prop helps me control my test levels in the final weeks of a cycle.
What is your cycle history? How successful were your previous cycles (sides, how much weight did you keep, etc.). You said " I have some Letro, Clomid and Nolvadex on hand just in case". In case of what? In case you want to run a PCT?
You're panning on running 100 mg of prop a week or eod? Have you run tren before? Tren-a and/or tren-e?
Lots of questions here.......
Thanks for the questions.
I've run about 15 cycles during the past 10 years. I don't have my cycle logs handy to provide the details. But most of the cycles included Sustanon and Deca. I'm now running Tren in place of the Deca. Had one full cycle with Test and Tren last year.
I typically gain about 20 pounds on a 10-week cycle with a two-week taper. I usually keep about 10-15 of those pounds. However, I took a three-year hiatus between 2009 and 2012, so I went from about 240 pounds to about 195 during that time. Had some injuries that kept me out of the gym.
The Letro, Clomid and Nolvadex are on hand in case I start to feel tissue developing under my nipples. I have had some gyno issues in the past and always play it safe now. My PCT will consist of Aromasin and Pregnyl.
The 100mg of Prop is per week. I use it to taper up and taper down.
So, hit me up with some feedback, brother. I think I answered all of your questions.
lmao "incase you want to run PCT" Why letro... shit is strong.
Yeah, I agree. Letro is not a good PCT compound. I keep it around in case of gyno - if that happens, believe me, you start looking for the strongest Ai you can find. But, I've never heard of anyone using it as a PCT.
RustyhookerYour pct is NOT correct at all. And nolva on cycle with a nor raises prolactin.
Forums....ai//pct......research thoroughly
Alrighty, then. But could you at least give me a hint as to what is wrong with my PCT?
Also, I'm not using Nolva. That was never in my cycle log. I only mentioned that I had Nolva and Clomid on hand. I'm aware of the interaction between Nolva and 19-nors. That's why I was planning to use Aromasin and HCG for PCT.
The caber I plan to add mid-cycle should take care of any prolactin, right? What am I missing here?