Cycle: Summer EQ+TEST+VAR CYCLE

Week	Test. en.	Equip. u.	Test. p.	Anavar	HCG	Aromasin	Nolvadex	Clomid	Proviron
1	400mg	600mg	100mg eod			12.5mg ed			25mg ed
2	400mg	600mg	100eod			12.5 ed			25ed
3	400mg	600mg	100eod			12.5 ed			25ed
4	400mg	600mg			500ius	12.5 ed			25ed
5	400mg	600mg			500ius	12.5 ed			25ed
6	400mg	600mg			500ius	12.5 ed			25ed
7	400mg	600mg			500ius	12.5 ed			25ed
8	400mg	600mg			500ius	12.5 ed			25ed
9	400mg	600mg			500ius	12.5 ed			25ed
10	400mg	600mg			500ius	12.5 ed			25ed
11	250mg	600mg				12.5 ed			25ed
12	250mg	600mg				12.5 ed			25ed
13	250mg	600mg			500ius	12.5 ed			25ed
14	250mg	600mg		50mg ed	500ius	12.5 ed			25ed
15	250mg	600mg		50mg ed	500ius	12.5 ed			25ed
16	250mg	600mg		50mg ed	500ius	12.5 ed			25ed
17			100mg eod	50mg ed	500ius	12.5 ed			25ed
18			100eod	50mg ed	500ius	12.5 ed			25ed
19			100eod	50mg ed		12.5 ed			25ed
20						12.5 ed	20mg	100mg
21						12.5 ed	20	100
22						6.25 ed	20	50
23						6.25 ed	20	50

Your Comment

j223
500
04/11/2013 - 15:25

I like the cycle, but as of right now looks terrible.

hcg must not be used for longer than 8 week intervals. This will cause leydig cell desensitization resulting in more harm than help. AKA you will fuck yourself up.
I suggest you use HCG first 7 weeks and last 7 weeks before PCT.

Also Keep test at 400mg.
I wouldn't use that high of aromasin dose unless you are extremely sensitive to estrogen problems.

The prop taper is also not the best idea on an EQ cycle, as this will cover up quite a bit of your vascularity from the boldenone.

Your anavar dose is fine if you run it for 8-10 weeks. Otherwise 35mg for 6 weeks is a waste. I know girls that take more than that and they go 10-14 weeks.
My suggestion: var at 50mg for 9 weeks.

Also I would keep nolvadex at 20mg during the whole pct.

I also noticed you are 6'4" and only 200lbs. That's not good at all. You need to work on your diet. Your current one needs work. You need high carbs to gain muscle in addition to protein. Please fix up your diet

Colossus_fit
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j223
04/11/2013 - 23:58

i'm not looking to add mass.i'm only 200lbs but around 7-8%bf. i know,var is low but i don't want too much orals bro...thanks for your advice about hcg,you are right...i have just udated.i'm very scared because in last cycle after 4 weeks,my balls become small lol!!nolva is too much 40-40-20-20,as you told my it's not necessary.so 20-20-20-20will be good...thanks for support .+1for your participation

j223
500
Colossus_fit
04/12/2013 - 10:44

I understand, but you still need carbs!!! Take it from me I am an ecto.
Carbs don't make you fat, they help provide energy for your muscles, which results in less protein breakdown. Don't worry you are not going to "get bulky" Your body needs carbs ESPECIALLY when on steroids.
If for any reason you notice you are getting "too much mass" you can always do more cardio and reduce calories. But it's not gonna happen with low dose test and EQ. Thats a very lean gain cycle. Remember once you are off cycle, you will need to eat even more to maintain your gains, since your body will be less anabolic. Meaning to "keep" the mass you need to eat more than you were off cycle. MY point is - getting too much mass is a temporary thing, and to be honest EQ will not do that unless you run it for over 20 weeks at high dose and high test dose.

The high calorie diet with these steroids will result in THICK dense muscle not wide puffy bloated gains. You will be hard, dry and quality muscle gains but you need the high calories to make it happen.

Steroids alone won't make your muscle. All the steroids do is reduce muscle breakdown, improve protein synthesis and keep you lean while building muscle. Your test is low so you will not have excess fat and water weight from estrogen, and EQ is minimal water retention, just enough to provide a good anabolic environment for your muscles while looking dry and not puffy.

Var is very mild, even at 50mg. Bro I have tried doses from 50mg to 150mg of Var for 4-10 weeks. I think you would love 40-60mg for 6 or 8 weeks. Its very mild and easy on your liver.

Colossus_fit
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j223
04/12/2013 - 10:51

ok,try to increase var....when i said low carbs,i mean 100gr/day complex carb..what is your idea?

j223
500
Colossus_fit
04/12/2013 - 11:04

That's way too low. 100g per day is bad because if you do lots of cardio, you will burn it all off then your body will do 2 things (in that scenario)

1 - store dietary fats as body fat

2 - breakdown muscle for energy.

If you are not getting enough carbs and protein your body will go catabolic. Now I will give you what I eat on a bulk. 600-1000g carbs per day while bulking. On 500-600 I'm actually losing fat because I have a high metabolism and do cardio.

For you I'd say 200-400g carbs per day. mostly complex, but it's okay to have simple sugars in the morning and post workout as these are times when your body is depleted of carbs. You are not going to gain fat on 300g carbs per day unless you have the worlds slowest metabolism and rarely workout and have no intensity during lift sessions.

good luck, and don't worry a little extra is better than not enough, especially on cycle because your body will utilize the nutrients. As long as you get enough carbs your body will not need to store dietary fat as bodyfat. When your body realizes it is not getting enough nutrition - that is when it conserves. Since you are on anabolics you need more nutrition than you normally would since your body is working harder to build muscle. Also keep in mind the more muscle you have, the more calories your body consumes to maintain it. Meaning if you have more muscle, your metabolism goes up and you burn more calories on a daily basis because it is more work to carry muscle around.

Colossus_fit
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j223
04/12/2013 - 11:12

ok good consultation,i can start with 350-400gr and see how it goes..cycle is long and a can check all this week after week,monitoring the progress ,right?so if will be necessary i can do some changes with carbs

j223
500
Colossus_fit
04/12/2013 - 11:18

Exactly. 400 is a perfect number really. I'd keep protein at or above 250g per day, and fats at or above 130. That should come out to 3700 calories or so.

Like I said, just do more cardio if you feel the need to. Try to keep the food the same every day so you know you are getting the right amounts. The cardio alone will burn a few hundred calories per session, workout weight lifting sessions will burn 1000 or more, as well as your metabolism and brain will consume over 2000 calories minimum per day. That leaves you very little for actual muscle building. See what I mean? Don't stress about getting "too mushc mass" it's not gonna happen.

If it does simply increase cardio

Colossus_fit
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j223
04/12/2013 - 11:23

yes i agree with all,thanks for your constructive dialogue.i keep you update with my results bro =)

j223
500
Colossus_fit
04/12/2013 - 11:29

No problem sir. Enjoy and good luck on your cycle. I respect that you have goals of being lean and ripped. Unlike some other guys here who will just eat 6000 calories a day to gain as much muscle as possible without caring about fat.

But everyone is different. Me, my body type is naturally like yours. My last cycle I ran test/deca/dbol super bulking cycle and I actually lost a ton of fat and looked lean most the cycle. Even at 800g carbs per day and 200g fats per day!!! Because of my metabolism I managed to not gain fat during a heavy bulk cycle like that and I looked leaner after the cycle was done. So yea with your setup, you should end up pretty ripped and hardly any fat at all !

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j223
04/12/2013 - 11:42

Good walkthrough j223.
+2

Colossus_fit
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j223
04/12/2013 - 11:40

you are a fun of eq,right? this is first time for me with eq..how is ability to keep the gains after cycle??(obviously continuing to eat right and exercise)

j223
500
Colossus_fit
04/12/2013 - 11:49

Yes this is my second time using EQ. EQ does not really add raw mass. It seems to just make your current mass more dense and stronger. Sure you will add some size, but not bulky like deca or dianabol is known to do. EQ is a slow gainer and the size comes on slow as well. That's why people run it for 20+ weeks !

You should be able to keep 75-90% of your gains.

Colossus_fit
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j223
04/12/2013 - 11:58

good..thanks for support bro

XvBeast
208
04/11/2013 - 14:07

too much test e IMO, i would lower it to 300 all the way through.. its not gunna help if its that high, its just gunna turn into estro

Colossus_fit
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XvBeast
04/11/2013 - 23:58

yes,i agree,i have just updated =) ..i don' want have too water on me,thanks +1for your participation

~~Rustyhooker~~
0
04/11/2013 - 13:00

do you get lots of nut shrink on cycle? id run hcg last 8 as needed. var 50ed starting dose

Colossus_fit
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Rustyhooker
04/11/2013 - 13:09

thanks,i know, 35mg of var is low...but i'm scared with orals in general.var is one of oral less toxic,but i prefer stay low with it

Colossus_fit
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Rustyhooker
04/11/2013 - 13:03

I am sensitive to testicular atrophy..after 3-4 week they start to become small lol

~~Rustyhooker~~
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Colossus_fit
04/11/2013 - 14:23

Cool! Its good to know your body! Cycle looks like a good ride!

Colossus_fit
136
Rustyhooker
04/12/2013 - 00:01

also thanks you for your partecipation=)

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