+ 3 Second cycle after one failed cycle help
Hello .This is my second post about the same thing, a steroid cycle with little side effects and real gains after PCT. I hope you get the time to read, and I thank you in advance for this. I' m a man,30 years old,1,78 height(I think in feet is,5.10)83-85 kg(182 lbs I guess) over 8 years of bodybuilding training, nutrition, and all involved in this sport. English it's not my native language, because I was born in Romania, and lived until this year there, now I moved to an other country. So in advance I want to apologize for my possible grammatical mistakes or any kind.
It seems that I reach my genetic limit, because for the last 2 years or so, I can't add weight, only if I put fat, but not lean muscle, I gain some details on my muscle, and a little size for my weakest muscle parts but my weight it's the same. 2 years ago I did an Testosterone Enanthate (250 mg a week injection)and Deca Durabolin (200mg a week injection) both from LAB for 3 months, with Nolvadex and Clomid at the end for PCT...It didn't help me neither for my weight, or for my strength, at the end of my cycle, the only difference was that I had some pimples..
I was thinking, that my steroids where fake, or that the amount was to little. LAB it's not that expensive, one ampule of Test E, cost 14 lei,about 3 euros, and one ampule of Deca was 22 lei, about 5 euros(I bought them online from Romania, and if you know, Republica Moldova,where ......LAB..... is located, it's Romania north east neighbor)so why counterfeit something cheap, and something that you can buy in one short airplane flight?!!
Can you please help me with my second cycle? I was thinking at 10 or 12 weeks Testosteron Enanthate 500mg week injection, Deca-Durabolin 400mg week injection and the classic Danabol(problem with this steroid, it's that you can't keep you gains after the cycle, and most of gains are just water, do you know any other oral steroid that would help me to keep the gains? For the oral I don't know how much to take 40-50 mg per day? Should I take also an AI like Arimidex, and how much? And for the PCT , Nolvadex and Clomid. Can you help me with the cycle, dosage per day, week, and everything I need to know? PCT it's very important to keep the gains like you already know.
It's easy for persons with knowledge and experience to help someone, if they want, because I can search on Google, but the information will not be always real like yours.
Thank you very much, all regards, and have a nice day.
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Nolvadex | Clomid |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | ||
| 2 | 500mg | ||
| 3 | 500mg | ||
| 4 | 500mg | ||
| 5 | 500mg | ||
| 6 | 500mg | ||
| 7 | 500mg | ||
| 8 | 500mg | ||
| 9 | 500mg | ||
| 10 | 500mg | ||
| 11 | 500mg | ||
| 12 | 500mg | ||
| 13 | PCT START AFTER 2 WEEKS FROM THE LAST INJECTION | ||
| 14PCT | 100 mg / day | 40 mg / day | |
| 15PCT | 100 mg / day | 40 mg / day | |
| 16PCT | 50 mg / day | 20 mg / day | |
| 17PCT | 50 mg / day | 20 mg / day |
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Solid advice below (+2 for them). Lower dose test-e/c only for this and even a few more cycles in the future. PCT advice below is solid as well. This is not a sprint and running test only will allow you to know how your body reacts to it. As you continue to run it for a few more cycles, you will know how to tweak your body to get the most out of what your taking in. Best of luck.
Ok, thank you for the advice. So 500 mg of Test E, per week, without AI Arimidex, also, and for PCT Nolvadex and Clomid, those doses from the post below? But can you tell me why, just Testosteron without Deca, and Dianabol? I know that oral steroids affects the liver, but everywhere on the internet the most usual cycle for bulking it's test, deca and dianabol. The reason is because it's my second cycle? My first cycle from 2 years ago hardly can be considered a cycle, maybe I was just injecting vegetal oil, that's why I didn't feel any changes on weight and strength...
You should have your AI on hand and should get bloods done at 6 weeks to see where you're at. If your estro is high, then you can start or you can start week 3 with a lower dose of AI.
The reason you want to only run test for a while, is what I said before, you need to know how your body reacts to one substance at a time. If you start having issues, you know what's causing it. If you're running several, you have no idea. Also, each run can be a little different, so that's why I suggest running a few test runs. You really can accomplish everything you need with just test at this point.
Do some research on deca and dbol here on eroids and see all the sides they have and how serious they can be (especially deca). It's an advanced compound and should only be run with those with experience.
Ok, a quick and good response, it's always welcome. Thank you! I hoped to take more substances for better result, but maybe just testosterone cycle and a good PCT will help me to gain some size . I don't know what to say about other cycles, it was already hard for me to search help for this matter, but indeed it's important to get the highest result with minimum amount, and risks possible...
More is NOT better. It's all about the proper diet, rest, exercise and your aas. If you do things right, a 500 mg a week cycle of test can produce more than many others running a test, deca, dbol stack.
If you keep adding compounds each cycle, what's going to happen 5-6 cycles down the road. You'll be running all kinds of things and having all kinds of potential problems.
I know it may be hard to believe, but a simple test cycle will get you where you want to go. It's safe and effective and proven. Just focus on this cycle for now.
Thank you, indeed , good advice.I will put some comments after the cycle, and another picture... All the best!
Keep us updated and post questions if you have any.
Ok, I will ! And with this occasion, because all can read this post, I want to thank everybody for the quick response and advices. You are doing all a great job, keep up the good work !!!
500 mg/ week of the test is good. Drop the deca. Drop the dianabol. Clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20. Change your lifting routine. Eat twice as much as you're used to. Get fat, it comes along with building the muscle, it's called bulking. After cycle clean up the diet and do crazy cardio to get the fat off and then recheck the weight.
Thank you for the response. Just testosterone e, sounds good for me, because I don't want to take to much gear, but, how much weight do you think I will take, in lbs speaking?...I want to remember that from my first cycle, from 2 years ago, I didn,t gain nothing, and the strength was the same...And I was eating,training,sleeping, everything except cardio because I have a fast metabolism, the fat it's not a problem for me..
Test only for the second cycle
Thank you for the response, 500 mg on week, are ok, at my weight?
rocketballzAs long as your diet is clean and your training regime is disciplined and on point there is no reason that 500 mgs/wk of test e/c ONLY can put 10-15 lbs of muscle, if not more, on you in 12-14 weeks. PCT is clomid and nolva and do yourself a favor and get pharmaceutical grade pct meds. Research chems, etc are generally hit or miss. Also have an AI like Arimidex or Letro on hand before you start cycling. I can't speak to the deca since I have never done it, but the vets on here generally advocate for a 2:1 test to deca ratio and idk if 250 mgs/wk of deca will be beneficial. I am going out on a limb here but spending the extra money for pharma everything is probably worth it. A lot of the ugl gear has been testing poorly, like dosed at half of what it's advertised as. Good luck bro!
Thank you for your response. Can you help me with the dosage for clomid and nolva, ?
rocketballzStandard PCT protocol is 100mgs clomid and 40 mgs Nolvadex every day for first two weeks (split am/pm doses), and then clomid nolva 50/20 every day for the last two weeks. That should get your boys up and running again. I can't stress to you how important pharmaceutical grade pct meds are for recovery.