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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

Age: 28
5 ' 7 and around 84-85 kilos.
Running 750 mg test en at the moment and just finished 5 weeks of 30mg dbol ed.
Would like you guys to provide your input on my PCT plan

Week 1: 100mg clomid, 40mg nolvadex ED
Week 2: 50mg clomid, 30mg nolvadex ED
Week3: 50mg clomid, 20mg nolvadex ED
Week4: 50mg clomid, 10 mg nolvadex ED

Alongside i'll be running some igf and peps to enhance the recovery. May or may not run hcg prior to pct but would highly appreciate to read if hcg is needed for a better PCT

SuperMax's picture

Why comment if your not going to be helpful?

giardap's picture

I am being helpful actually.
It's sh!t on many levels. He can have more help if requested, but if me saying it is sh!t is not enough to get this chap to research them chems he is planning to shove into himself, then so be it.

SuperMax you just signed off a nonsense PCT which means you yourself don't know what you're talking about either, or you just don't really care and are happy to co-sign a bad plan. Whatever the reason, you signed off a fontloaded tamoxifen protocol!!!!!!!!! WTH is that about fella????

SuperMax's picture

Front load Nolvadex? What are you talking about? This pct protocol he has laid out is about the most simple & generic there is!!
Wait for ester to clear then clomid/Nolvadex for 4 weeks!!
100/50,100/50,50/25,50/25
Please tell us where with your infant wisdom what he should do

giardap's picture

LOL

techy

I'll dig up some reading material for you

TrenAllDay's picture

I have to agree with the others here, don’t see anything really wrong with that pct, although I would just keep the nolva at the regular 40/40/20/20

Supermax has bloods done after his pct and they were real good so imagine he has a good idea how pct works. I see no mention of a frontload of nolvadex

i20bpm's picture

If you have some new information that saying tried-and-true nolvadex doesn't work anymore and then I truly like to see it

giardap's picture

Not what I said fella, maybe re-read my posts

But yes I will be posting this up when I find it

i20bpm's picture

That's me trying to rationalize what you said because it's a pretty standard template for a PCT well 40mg is but I'm sure you understand what I'm saying. I wouldn't even think he would need HCG because it's a pretty basic cycle don't you think

The Impastable's picture

X2 on this...its the standard PCT on here, it works, as Iron game said up top why fuck with it. Sure, I've run 6 weeks after a heavier cycle, and he could theoretically too. But if he runs his 4 week PCT and his bloods come back indicating he's back to stock, then how is it a bad PCT?

giardap's picture

Just one point on this I,
other than the other reasons I detailed and the health risks assoc with Nolv, the residence time of PCT chems is also an issue. If Nolv can up estrogen, which it can, how does OP feel once nolv dissipates from the body?
Are the estro increases assoc with Nolv dose dependant?? I dunno myself, but it would be enough of a question to wonder about why one would use more than needed.

I know this is a polarising issue because people recover, but they recover in spite of the high dose, not because of it. If taking totally un-needed chems is not an issue and people are happy with eating things (and maybe risking their health) they dont actually need, then it's all a moot point.

SuperMax's picture

My point exactly!! Thank you brother!

Odyssey1's picture

Imaginary +1

Odyssey1's picture

dont get to worked up from this fuckin idiot. his profile picture is fitting for him. spends more time typing then lifting

SuperMax's picture

Agreed!! He wants to be a keyboard tuff guy then he can take it back to the Source discussion pages!!
This area is for people that have questions that need answers. Not this bull shit!’

giardap's picture

Tough guy, source pages????
Explain that one to me there SuperMax??

Odyssey1's picture

here we go again...

giardap's picture

another neg for following me around and diss'ing good advice

Odyssey1's picture

glad i found a pussy neg src. ill hit you up for more

giardap's picture

Ok, here you go, this time for saying I am pussy Negging you, which I am not, I'm negging you because you seem unable to keep saying dumb things to me
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