posted Fri, 08/10/2012 - 04:50
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My third cycle, adding EQ to TEST, Hope to go from 190 to 210
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Age 40: 5'10, 196, BF 12%
This is my third cycle, looking to get from 190 to 210, put on some serious mass.
Aiming to reach about 3,200 cal a day, 40/40/20 macro breakdown, doing mostly German Volume Training.
Doing a t-bol kickstarter and ending the cycle with Anavar to get more cut.
Pinning twice a week. Adding HCG on this cycle to keep my nads in better shape than last time, not sure about the HCG, should that 500UI be total? How many pins a week? Do I pin the HCG every other day, like 125UI?
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | HCG | Equipose | Test-Prop | Anavar | Nolva | Clomid |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 600mg | 400mg | 100mg EOD | ||||
| 2 | 600mg | 400mg | 100mg EOD | ||||
| 3 | 600mg | 500UI | 400mg | 100mg EOD | |||
| 4 | 600mg | 500UI | 400mg | 100mg EOD | |||
| 5 | 600mg | 500UI | 400mg | ||||
| 6 | 600mg | 500UI | 400mg | ||||
| 7 | 600mg | 500UI | 400mg | ||||
| 8 | 600mg | 500UI | 400mg | ||||
| 9 | 600mg | 500UI | 400mg | 40mg/DAY | |||
| 10 | 600mg | 500UI | 400mg | 40mg/DAY | |||
| 11 | 600mg | 500UI | 400mg | 40mg/DAY | |||
| 12 | 600mg | 500UI | 400mg | 40mg/DAY | |||
| 13 | |||||||
| 14 | |||||||
| 15 | 50mg/DAY | 100mg/DAY | |||||
| 16 | 50mg/DAY | 50mg/DAY | |||||
| 17 | 25mg/DAY | 50mg/DAY | |||||
| 18 | 25mg/DAY | 50mg/DAY | |||||
| 19 | 25mg/DAY | 50mg/DAY |
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Again, run test 2 weeks longer than EQ
In terms of mixing the HCG, I'm looking at a 5,000 IU mixed with 5CC of bac water. That would give me 500IU per 1CC, so I would inject 1/2 CC, twice a week to get two shots of 250IU for a total of 500IU. Sound good?
Actually, use 1ml to reconstitute....that way each 10 mark on the slin pin will be 500iu, half way to the 10 will be 250iu. It makes it easier. OR I guess you could use 2ml of bac water, and then each 10 would be 250 iu...whichever you prefer. Maybe a lil' more bac water is a lil' better and would ensure a nice mix of the hormone.
Okay so I'm going to go the 14 weeks, and do 10mg of Test Prop as a kickstarter for 4 weeks, but I'm wondering if I should just do it for 2 weeks?
1-4 Test Prop 100mg EOD
1-14 EQ @ 400mg (pin 2xweek)
1-16 Test E @ 600mg (pin 2xweek)
13-16 Anavar @ 40mg ED
Arimidex .25mg e3d if nipples get sore .5mg e3d or .5mg ed..
Start PCT 15 days after last shot
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
Nah...run that prop for four weeks; I mean why not, right?...that way when the long estered test starts kickin in, you won't have that lag time between the short and long ester from the end of week 2 till test E launch time!
Probably could still run that var for at least another week too...just mentioning.
Anonyeah 12 weeks is the minimum to run eq he should be fine there but most would recommend 14-16 weeks. good luck man!
No double dipping 17aa's. Prop kickstart that properly. And fix the clomid nolva so youre not having pct sides. And tbol is always 6weeks........Eq longer too!
Prop kickstart is a WAY better idea...good call 'fast', one of us shoulda mentioned that!!
The bonus IMO of prop kicker is your test is on fast. Then you can choose any finisher combo with less liver worries. Let's each chemical do what its for :).
An oral for the first four and the last? Why didn't anyone else comment on this? I was always told ONE oral run per cycle...either first four, OR last four to six. I agree with zewi though on running the test for 16 weeks and the EQ for 14. Definitely gonna need that HCG for an extended cycle like this...and run it up until start of pct, taking an AI with it till then as well.
zewiI agree with the one oral.. But im not him...
zewiNot bad but could be so much better. like everyone said EQ needs longer time. Min 14--16 is best. weeks..But Uncle zewi cares. so here you go
This is the 14 weeker EQ
1-4 Tbol @ 40mg ED
1-14 EQ @ 400mg
1-16 Test E @ 500mg or 600mg your choice.
13-16 Anavar @ 40mg ED
Arimidex .25mg e3d if nipples get sore .5mg e3d or .5mg ed..
Start PCT 15 days after last shot
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
This is the 16 weeker EQ
1-4 Tbol @ 40mg ED
1-16 EQ @ 400mg
1-18 Test E @ 500mg or 600mg your choice.
15-18 Anavar @ 40mg ED
Arimidex .25mg e3d if nipples get sore .5mg e3d or .5mg ed..
Start PCT 15 days after last shot
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
I'm thinking of just doing 2 weeks of Test Prop for a kickstarter instead of the TBol. Or should I just skip the kickstarter altogether?
Thinking of bulking the first 7 weeks of the cycle and then cutting the last 7. Just doing a simple 500 cal a day surplus and then -500 cal a day for cutting.
okay so I'll go up to 16 weeks of Test, with 14 of EQ, thanks! What about the HCG? I was planning on doing two shots a week, 250UI for a total of 500UI a week, starting week 2.
Probably will switch out Test Prop 100mL EOD for the first 4 weeks instead of using T-Bol, and then adding the Anavar at the end. Sound good?
I know you replied to 'zewi'...BUT, YEAH 14 on the EQ with 16 on the test is good. HCG plan sounds good as well...start week 2, 250iu/2x wk. (for a total of 500iu/wk.).
The anavar is a nice 'clean-up' if you so choose...technically it's more of a cutter-type of steroid, but it can have its place in this cycle. Run it for 5 weeks if you can(I know it's expensive!!)...80mg/day is usually a damn good dose. Test prop kick is where it's at...100mg EOD, smooth sailing!!
How many weeks you think I should use the Test Prop 100mg EOD kickstarter? I was thinking 2 weeks, but others recommend 4.
Is it better to wait to week 2 to start HCG or just go ahead and start it right away?
These guys have it eq needs to be ran longer
Run EQ for 14 weeks and test e for an additional 2 weeks.
With hCG you need to run an AI to prevent e2 conversion.
2 pins a week with hCG (250IU x 2)
Var really needs to be run for at least 6 weeks, given that you should extend your cycle by at least another 2 weeks. I would recommend you extend it by 3 weeks as 15 weeks is optimal for an EQ cycle. Also would not recommend a dosage lower than 50 mg daily for tbol.
EQ needs to be ran longer. You should intro new compounds 1 at a time so you can tell how they effect your body.
I think ur selling urself short by running EQ only 12wks. I saw my biggest gains around wk 12 and up. But that's ur call. Hcg is pinned 2x a wk. 250iu each injection.