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+ 1 First Cycle - 500mg test E + hgh?

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

36 yrs old, 183 cm (6'), 87kg (191lbs), bf 15% now trying to get it down to 12-13% when cycle starts

working out on off for 20yrs, getting ready for first cycle, aim is to get on some lean mass/burn fat

Currently running 2-4IU hgh for anti-aging, general health, repair joint purposes, plan is running it for next 6+ months.

I plan running hgh and test e simultaneously, would it be sufficient to run only 300mg of test e weekly due to synergic effects? I would like to avoid sides especially gyno and hairloss.

Any ideas/hints in this area would be very appreciated.

Was also considering hcg but decided to keep first cycle simple.

Other supplements: saw palmetto ED, nizoral 2% E3D

Will have also Letrozole at hand in case gyno problems.

What do you think guys?

Update:

Precycle bloodwork added.

Precycle pictures added.

Decided to run 500mg/week (2x250) and add prop taper last 4 weeks (100mg EOD)

WeekTestosterone EnanthateHGHAdexNolvadexClomidHCG
1500mg4UI ED
2500mg4UI ED
3500mg4UI ED.25mg EOD
4 - bloodwork500mg4UI ED.25mg EOD
5500mg4UI ED.25mg EOD
6500mg4UI ED.25mg EOD
7500mg4UI ED.25mg EOD
8 - bloodowork500mg4UI ED.25mg EOD
9500mg4UI ED.25mg EOD500iu pw 2x250
10500mg4UI ED.25mg EOD500iu pw 2x250
11500mg4UI ED.25mg EOD500iu pw 2x250
12500mg4UI ED.25mg EOD500iu pw 2x250
134UI ED500iu pw 2x250
144UI ED500iu pw 2x250
154UI ED40mg ED100mg ED
164UI ED40mg ED100mg ED
174UI ED20mg ED50mg ED
184UI ED20mg ED50mg ED
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POST CYCLE PIC: 
levelup's picture

Precycle I would get test, lh, fsh, alt, and get cholesterol ran thru your doctor. Prolactin progesteron, and estradiol are only really relevant on cycle. Imo the only time you would run shbg would be to test the effectiveness of proviron

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chunkypbnj's picture

You are located in the US, right?

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Dream23's picture

nope buddy EU, called this morning to local lab - they re able to run bloodtest even without doc's request but have to choose the markers individually....

chunkypbnj's picture

I thought that might be the case, but I saw your ht and wt are not metric so I was not sure. You definitely want to test, free test, and estradiol. The others I would not worry about. I don't want to drive your cost too high. You will need these 3 numbers to gauge whether your body has recovered following proper PCT. The estradiol number is important because you want to keep it where your body likes it naturally while you're on cycle. Anywhere from 20-50 is OK, but most guys shoot for 20-30. It may go up on cycle even with AI use.

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Dream23's picture

Thanky you pal. Bloodwork results just uploaded,