Cycle help needed
Looking for some advice from the experts here. Took gear for the first time I got from a local source in town about a yr ago (test cyp 300 mg/ml). Only ran one bottle due to a shortage he had. Was able to
get my hands on 3 more bottles of test E 300mg/ml along with some dbol that I didnt take properly over the duration of 6 months just to give me a little bit of a boost. It was more of a situation where my buddy was like "here, take these". Never had many side affects and couldnt get my hands on any PCT so I didnt take it (I know I should have done my research first- please refrain from ripping my asshole out of the frame) still have a few of the dbol left and im down to my last few ml of test. Any advice on how to get me back on track ? Id love to run another cycle the right way but should I forego that and just get some pct? Maybe someone can recommend a nice bulking stack. Wouldnt mind packing on an extra 20 or 30 lbs. Im 6'4" and 205 lbs. Any help is appreciated.
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Pregnyl | Nolvadex |
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| 1 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 2 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 3 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 4 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 5 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 6 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 7 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 8 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 9 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 10 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 11 | 500UI | ||
| 12 | 500UI | ||
| 13 | 500UI | 20mg | |
| 14 | 500UI | 20mg | |
| 15 | 20mg | ||
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| 17 | 20mg |
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Listen to these guys bro there looking out for your best interests. Gear is worthless if yor diet is off. It's not magic and it's not worth putting your body through the stress for nothing. Come off the gear, run proper pct, get some blood work done I would say 1 month after your finish your pct. then get your diet squared away. And then maybe consider running another cycle but I think you'd be suprised how fast gains come naturally with a great diet and training routine. But this whole thing you got going on right now is fucked. Follow champions pct protocol but since you've been on for 11 months I would think about extending pct to 6 or even 8 weeks depending on how your feeling after 4 weeks. And use hcg it's very important. Do a 10 day blast, 1000ous every other day for 10 days then start your pct 4-5 days after you finsh the hcg.
Definitely didnt think it was magic. I always try to eat good and work out hard 4-5 times each week. Also, the spurts I had in between times where I was off the gear didnt prove to show many side effects so i'm hoping the 4 weeks of pct will do the trick. It wasnt really the fact I was abusing it, I just couldnt get myself on a set schedule with all of the shit I had going on. Before I knew it, I was about 8 or 9 months into this shit storm taking a shot of test whenever I felt a lack of energy and a handfull of dbols I never got to finish. Still have an awesome libido-never any issues in that department. No gyno or hairloss. Little moody every now and then a minor lack of energy from time to time. Afterall we are only talking about 4 10 ml vials over the course of a year. I plan on starting the pct though and getting back to the basics. Ill be back on the board here in another 3 or 4 months with an update and looking to get some more advice from the pros. Until then, im in training. Lol
Okay lets start from scratch. Exactly when did you finish taking your gear?
Never finished it up. I have maybe 3 ml of test E 300mg/ml and 10 dbol (50mg tabs) left. Got those from Muta when he was still a source on here. The dbol I started taking faithfully one per day 5 times a week pre workout and quit after about 15 doses. Just started back up on the dbol about 2 weeks ago. Got some gains from it all but not much. Lately ive been doing a lot of research on proper cycles and PCT. Read many different things and just trying to get an idea of where to go from here.
Don't refer to sources or brands dude.
How long have you been running the test and dbol collectively? What exactly is going on here? Are you running test with the dbol and how much and for how long???
Sure thing, not too sure about all of the rules around here, im a newcomer. Figured it wasnt a problem seeing that I read a lot on other sources and brands in the forums here. I spread four 10ml bottles of test over the last 10 months thinking it would elevate my levels. Dbol I started taking last year in November and never finished it. ( Went through a divorce and moved to another state) just started taking the dbol again 2 weeks ago pre workout 5 times a week.
Are you injecting testosterone right now? If so how much and how often?
Pinning once a week. Test E 300mg/ml. Feels like it gives me a slight boost in energy and strength.
Age and BF% 6'4" 205 is pretty skinny...
Metabolism is pretty high. I can eat like a horse and gain very little lbs.
If your eating empty carbs then it's impossible to grow, are you eating quality food? Be honest bro, it's the only way we can help...
Stay away from junk food and sweets for the most part. Eat a lot of chicken, steak, pasta, white bread, lunch meat. Usually cereal and something else each morning. Few protein drinks a week. A lot of fruit. Anything and everything around really. Im just looking to get on a good regimen with some gear and do it the right way.
Forget about gear right now... 6'4" 205 lbs, your diet is off... calculate your calories and divide up your macros.. eat your meal 2-3 hours apart... Steroid causes nitrogen retention, so does eating protein.. if your nutritions was on point you would be 30 lbs heavier. You can get there naturally, metabolism is an excuse bro, for being lazy on your diet. Always eat your carbs first, they metabolise slower than protein. Your body will absorb what it stores less of first and thats protein. If you ate protein first you get full faster and inturn eat less, and you wouldn't grow as much.
Never thoughtt about eating carbs first to avoid gtting full. Always learn something reading your posts.
Well, if I forget about the gear im a little concerned I might crash and body won't produce enough test by itself. Ive been taking 300ml per week faithfully now for about 8 weeks. Thats why I was also inquiring about maybe some pct by itself or just going hard on one more cycle the proper way and following it up with the proper pct to get my body back on track
Ok now we're getting somewhere... After 8 weeks of continuous use along with a flutter of shots here and there plus some danabol, I would assume that your testosterone is shut down. Stop taking the danabol right now... Order some pct Clomid and Nolvadex... Once you get the PCT stop taking the testosterone. Go to the doctor and get some blood work make sure everything it GTG, run your pct.. clomid 100/100/50/50 nolvadex 40/40/20/20..after pct more blood work.... then get your diet on track and earn some gains, educate yourself on aas and then possibly reconsider, right now I believe you can't use aas safely being a cycle without knowing proper pct...
Cant say your wrong. I did read up on HCG toward the end of a cycle. That not necessary? Would it really be a bad idea to finish the dbol at this point because it does help. Only 10 pills left. You say 100/100/50/50 on the clomid. Is that 100mg ever day for two weeks then 50mg every day the following two weeks?
This is your first go, and HCG is a little tricky... yes you ran dbol for 8 weeks at 50mg... its alot already...yes 100 two weeks then 50 two weeks with nolvadex
Ran the dbol on and off yes. Started with only 50 pills and still have 10 left. Ill take your advice and run the clomid and nolvadex then get blood work. I hate to come off like a wreckless SOB because im pretty well educated. I've done a lot of reseach but read many contradictory things and was in need of some intel from someone straight up so thanks for your time in that aspect. In a nutshell my situation was this. I eat pretty good for the most part but need a better schedule. Hard to keep on track sometimes with work and personal life etc. Got some good gains in the gym before the gear and a buddy threw me off a bottle. I liked it but couldnt find anymore. Ordered 3 bottles off here and some dbol to stack it with but the source was out of PCT at that time so I figured id get it at a later time. In the midst of running the first real cycle I seperated with the wife, moved like 3 times- 2 diff states, switched gyms twice, and couldnt exactly stay on track. With as good as it felt having that extra test in my system from time to time it was also hard to resist if you can dig what im saying. Moral of the story is never run a cycle without ALL of the proper material on hand and do it at a time that there are not as many distractions.
you are doing all the right things. You are very open minded and it looks like champ has been guiding u well. +2 for being open mimded and willing to learn. Keep doing research and reaching out and you will be fine
I appreciate the words of wisdom! Going to get some PCT ordered tonight. Doing some research on proper diets right now. Still going to keep hitting the gym hard as hell in the mean time. Fortunately my libido has never been affected throughout this whole ordeal! Ill reach back out to you fellas with a progress report sometime here in the near future. Thanks for the karma boost!
Don't drop the test until you have the pct, wait two weeks before you pct... Get the blood work done make sure you recover and then think about it again dude... Time on + Pct equals Time Off..Sucks life got in the way bro, but that's why it's important to have everything.. one of the rules of safe steroid use.Good Luck Bro
Hey, thanks again for all of the advice. Greatly appreciated brother. I friend requested you. Ill get it all squared away and catch up with you another time.
I'm happy to help my friend. Please follow up on those blood they're very important... Good luck
Sure thing, will do!
Im 30. Not sure about the body fat. cant be much at all though. Ive always been pretty lean. Not too skinny though. Ive got a little mass and most of my muscles are pretty defined.