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Cycle #1 - Test only

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

Running my first cycle of Test e 250x2, AI and PCT. simple setup. - Not sure how the body will react to the test, but I have a positive feeling about it judging from my 3 previous PH cycles of 4 andro and 1andro.

Will update once I start next week with before photos and keep yall posted! Smile

WeekTEST EADEXNOLVACLOMID
1500mg
2500mg
3500mg.25 EOD
4500mg.25 EOD
5500mg.25 EOD
6500mg.25 EOD
7500mg.25 EOD
8500mg.25 EOD
9500mg.25 EOD
10500mg.25 EOD
11500 mg.25 EOD
12500 mg.25 EOD
13500 mg.25 EOD
14500 mg.25 EOD
15500 mg.25 EOD
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1740 mg100 mg
1840 mg100 mg
1920 mg50 mg
2020 mg50 mg
2110 mg25mg
Makwa's picture

Drop the prop taper for first cycle

tyler0628's picture

Agreed. Ive heared great thinga about the para prop, but i guess we will see... a little bit of pain is gunna be better than a rough pct in my opinion, and ill just push it through a 27g needle to control the flow of oil. Im gunna do opposite glutes. Quads and shoulders.

I have a question. Why is pip worse with short esters? Is it the weight of the ester or something?

helloBrooklyn's picture

The solvents are a little harsher is all

Sam I Am's picture

That could easily be your first three cycles.
Test cycles are feel good cycles.

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GrowMore's picture

Too true!

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GrowMore's picture

Hi mate. What’s your bf% and what will your diet/macros look like while you’re on cycle? Have you managed to get pre cycle bloods taken?

I’ve never personally used a prop taper although I’ve used a prop ‘booster’ at the end of a cycle but I have read on here a lot of lads do find a prop taper eases them into PCT.

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House's picture

On a first cycle?

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GrowMore's picture

My first cycle was prop 100mg eod - 350mg per week.

Quick gains, easier recovery, can adjust dose if side hit. It goes against the grain here but this was my experience. The only problem is the extra pinning but again in my opinion pinning isn’t difficult to do as long as you follow correct protocol. Prop taper apparently eases you into pct and although I haven’t seen the science (although I’ve seen a ester graph on it before) it sounds logical to me and quiet a few lads do follow suit.

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House's picture

True and here is where I learned I guess that's why I'm set on it. I just think 16 weeks is a long time. It does seem logical.

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GrowMore's picture

100% mate, this was pre-eroids for me and 10 weeks on prop made more sense to me.

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House's picture

Dam. We both been on here 5 + years. That's crazy. I need another hobby lol.

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GrowMore's picture

A less expensive one would be good! So much food

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tyler0628's picture

Currently around 12% (ish). Diet and macros will consist of high carb, high protein and low fat (350/400/70-90). Lean protein (Chicken, fish, sirloin steak, turkey mixed nuts, quinoa) lots of cruciferous veggies (Broccoli, cauliflower, brussel spouts) complex carbs such as sweet potato and brown rice with carb loading starches before gym and after gym (russet potato, whole wheat bread etc..) and the healthy fats (Avocado, fish oil, olive oil, occasional cheese) - shooting for around 3250-3500/day to start with and bumping to 3850-4100 by end of cycle, adjusting as I go with each week weigh ins)

My gym routine will be 3 different exercises on each muscle group trained that day (Ie. legs would be 12 sets of quads, 12 sets of hams and 12 sets of calves) as well as working core each day with a progressive bodyweight circuit and 30-40 minutes of steady state, targeted heart rate cardio.

got an appointment to have bloods drawn in 2 days, should have the results back by EOW before start.

Im pretty estro sensitive and usually get super sensitive nipples and lots of acne when on cycle, so I did an extra week of PCT (playing that one by ear depending on how I feel after 4 weeks of PCT).

GrowMore's picture

Sounds like you’re really going for it mate. I can’t say weather or not you should as it’s a big personal decision but I’m glad you’ve done your research and have a plan laid out.

I wouldn’t start adex from week one, I think usually people start by week 4 if it’s even needed, only bloods can tell. I much prefer aromasin over adex but again you’ve got to find the right one for you.

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tyler0628's picture

Thanks man. Been researching this for years and decided that it's cheaper and a little more effective than prohormomes. Which is why I did. Little experimenting into prohormomes first to see how I enjoyed it.

I'm regretting ordering the Adex instead of trying aromasin. But I'll probably do aromasin next round. I just know adex works for me.

helloBrooklyn's picture

As the platitude goes, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. If it works, it works

House's picture

First cycle? It needs work. I'm confused cause it says test prop at the top too. So are you adding that in at week 13?? You don't need that long I can see 12 weeks at 500 ew of test e and waiting 2 weeks to pct. I researched alot before my first cycle and never seen one like this.

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tyler0628's picture

Not adding, using as a taper to ease into pct. My pro BB friend highly reccomends it to smooth the transition out to pct with lower estro conversion, so week 13 is prop eod for 4 weeks until i reach 100 and then pct the week after since it will all effectively be out of system. Check the desktop chart version

House's picture

Here's the thing people do this cycle cause it's easy already. Less pinning less of a shutdown and able to see how your body reacts. You got the anti estro and your pct is a week longer Wich I don't know if it matters good/bad but you don't need the prop but it's up to you bud. Just giving you my exp and what I learned I'm not a professional.

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tyler0628's picture

completely understand that! - I find myself to be pretty estro sensitive with a diagnosis of hypogonadism and a slightly higer E2 levels than many males my age, so I find a week longer of PCT is mostly just insurance. Smile

Appreciate the advice though.

tyler0628's picture

Both. Had bloods done about 6 months ago to see whether or not i should consult a doctor about trt, thought i had low t but it was actually high estro.

tyler0628's picture

Yeah they werent the best for my liver. Hence why i had lower t and slightly higer estro. Its fairly in check now but yeah.

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