posted Mon, 09/23/2013 - 14:13
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+ 1 Clen/T3 First cycle
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
38 Yrs old
6-1'
220lbs
BF 18-19%
Got in on the Alin shop promo and got some Clen/T3 to try a 2 week cycle
Taking it slowly and see how it plays out.
| Day | Clen | T3 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | 20mcg | |
| 2 | 20mcg | 25mcg |
| 3 | 40mcg | 25mcg |
| 4 | 60mcg | 50mcg |
| 5 | 80mcg | 50mcg |
| 6 | 80mcg | 75mcg |
| 7 | 100mcg | 75mcg |
| 8 | 100mcg | 100mcg |
| 9 | 80mcg | 75mcg |
| 10 | 80mcg | 50mcg |
| 11 | 60mcg | 50mcg |
| 12 | 40mcg | 25mcg |
| 13 | 40mcg | 25mcg |
| 14 | 20mcg |
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Good answers. Im in the same situation with bad joints. Diet and cardio it is.
AnonYea, I'm trying that. After reading all this and researching more, I'm thinking of not using the T3 at all.
My knee maybe fucked but at least my thyroid works LOL
AnonDiet isnt perfect but it's also not McDs either, but i'm also limited by knee injury/surgery as to the amount and type of cardio I can do.
however, i've only run 2-2 week cycles on clen before.
My BF has dropped from 22% to 18%ish.
Thanks for the input, appreciated.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkI'd wait then honestly. I've had a handful of surgeries myself. The fat gain sucks, but don't try too much too fast. What kind of surgery did you have exactly? Bike and elliptical only at this point.
AnonMicroFracture, blew the cart while training for a marathon.
Today is my 1 yr anniversary of my surgery and my knee is still fucked! It's swollen , hurts to walk, climb stairs, you name it.
I go to the DR today hopefully for an MRI and find out what my next steps are.
Cant even do the elliptical b/c bending the knee that far (like climbing up stairs) is painful.
Matter of fact, leaving for the doctor in 5 mins. Wish me luck and thanks for the input, always appreciated.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkA bit late, but good luck. How'd it go? Did you get results from the MRI? My knee still isn't the same and it never really will be. All the babying I've done with it and my "good" knee is now my bad knee, and the "bad" knee is the better knee now. The best my knee ever felt was after a month of running daily. The time to get to the month and beyond was painful, but once I got the time in and a good deal of weight off it was like I never had an injury. What do they have you doing for therapy exercises? Are you hitting the bike at all? I was told to stay away from leg extensions because of all the pressure they put on the joint. I have to say though biking daily with light to medium weight leg extensions with perfect, slow, steady form did more for me than the little exercises they gave me. I was also told I could never run, squat, deadlift, box/mma train again. Needless to say I didn't listen to all that. I never really peaked in leg strength before my initial injury. I've had a lot of time off and have been pounding away at the legs like never before ever since. I know if I get another injury, I'd drop a grand that day on HGH. Do you stretch the joint daily? I still have to or I'm very stiff.
AnonNot great. MRI was yesterday. Won't have results to late this week or early next but it's not gonna be good. The knee is full of fluid (alot) the Xray tech showed me.
At this point, I have some real hard decisions to make once I get the results. The first option is OATS surgery (http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/arthritis/g/oats.htm) which means knee sliced wide open and my 2nd surgery where I'm on crutches for 8-12 weeks. Mentally, this is tough to handle. Wife is 8 months preggers so the surgery will be delayed if i choose it until the baby is a bit older.
2nd option, which I am researching is Regenexx.com, stem cell injections. Like any option there is no guarantee of success, this option is good because it's no surgery, just injections and there is no "down" time. no crutches, etc. the Bad side is it's not covered by any insurance and runs 7-10k! Plus I have to drive 2+ hrs to the clinic in NJ (closest).
As for exercises, I hit the gym 5 days a week and the bike and stepper are the only 2 cardio machines I can really do. It's weird b/c i can use the seated squat rack (http://i.stack.imgur.com/IAPlG.jpg) with very limited pain and can do 200+ lbs. Regular bar squats, forget it, I can barely do the bar w/o serious pain.
I cannot do any leg extensions, I can't even do the lowest 15lb with my bad leg, the knee just gives out.
I'll know more later this week or early next.
Thanks for the comments.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkI'd say go with the OATS. I've looked into the stem cell injections. They seem impressive, but they're not widely used often enough, and still seem experimental to me. If I were wealthy I'd go for that, but its a big gamble if you're not. Have you had your knee drained yet? It could be fluid build up or even an infection. I've had both. I'd stick with the bike for now and drop the stepper, unless its the kind where your feet are fixed and not the repeating steps. The hack squat was always good on my knees also. The further to the top of the platform my feet were, the better my knees felt. Same with leg press. If I were in your shoes the only compound on my mind would be GH. I've collapsed after training legs and cardio with clen due to the cramps. If my knees weren't at 100% at the time, it could have been very bad.
AnonI'm certainly not wealthy LOL but if I knew it would work I would find a way to come up with the 7-10 grand for it.
My knee should probably be drained, I get about 70% flexibility right now due to fluid on the back side of the knee. I have had the Euflexxa (acid) injections twice (4 shots) and thats like a short term aid which helps but doesn't last more than 3-4 weeks.
I like not having 12 months recovery but who knows. Have to wait for the results.
As for GH, I've been running it for months now. on my 5th box.
100iu Hyge Brown
300iu Vips
100iu Hyge Yellow (current box)
and have these 2 boxes left
100iu Rips
126iu Serostims :-)
As for clen, i've run 2 other 2 week cycles and as long as i drink water and take Taurine, i had zero cramping.
Sounds good to me. Thats what I'd be doing if I had another injury.
T3 / Clen are not the solution for you to lose weight bro. I'll bet if we're being really honest here, that you've never had a truly clean diet that you stuck with for more than a few months. Any weight you lose with that combo will be back. You have already run Clen twice and there were probably no lasting losses. T3 won't change anything except suppress your natural thyroid.
With a good consistent diet you will get to where you want to be.
You're jumping up with the t3 way too fast. There's no need to taper the Clen either. It has a good half life and you get used to it quick. Handle what you can and stop when you're ready. Your body will taper itself off.
AnonI've ran 2 other clen only cycles and found the tapering seems to work well for me.
as for the t3 , i'm playing that by ear. I've never taken it, so if at 50mcg I'm feeling something not right I'm not gonna hit 75 or more.
Thanks for the input guys.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkJust stay at 25mcg if you're going to run it. Its a hard enough compound already.
AnonUnderstood, gonna run that for 2 days and see how it goes.
I may not go higher and will definitely be on the conservative side of dosages
You misunderstood, it's my fault though. I was saying there was no need to taper it down at the end, the body will already be adapting to it, so there's no reason to do so. Stepping up slowly to what you can handle is kinda of required.
Tapering the Clen is more for adapting to the dose more gradually. Going clean on it and straight into 80-100mcg will fuck with you.
Nevertheless, I don't think anyone is ever truly "ready" for TSH's, unless they're prepared for the risks involved.
You misunderstood, it's my fault though. I was saying there was no need to taper it down at the end, the body will already be adapting to it, so there's no reason to do so. Stepping up slowly to what you can handle is kinda of required.
Gotcha. Yeah, I read that wrong. Skimmed over it on my phone..
My mistake. I was too short in my post.