Anadrol / Test / Deca
AGE: 26
HT: 5'10
WT: 196 lbs
BF: 16%
EXPECTATIONS:
This will be my 3rd cycle. On my first cycle I went from 172lbs to 202lbs, after PCT I ended up at 183lbs so I kept a solid 11lbs of muscle. On my 2nd cycle I went from 183lbs to 204lbs and after PCT and time off i am sitting at 195-200lbs so i kept at least a solid 12lbs of muscle. With this cycle I am hoping to get up to 225ish and end up around 210ish after its all said and done. If I achieve my goal then this will be my last bulking cycle and all future cycles will be aimed more towards cutting. My long term goal i had when i started using AAS was to be an absolutely shredded 210. As most of you know goals change as you get closer to achieving them so i just want to get to that point first and then I'll either make a new goal or just use AAS once a year or so just to maintain.
CONCERNS: I have 2 concerns with this cycle and 1 question. First concern is whether or not the TNE will be able to keep my test levels stable for the first month. I love TNE (and I also have a huge surplus of it that i need to start using) so I'm hoping that once a day injections will work, but if you guys disagree i do have plenty of prop too and can sub out the TNE for prop if you guys think it will be better. Second concern is the way I'm using HCG. I have used it in this exact protocol on my last cycle and it seemed to work good, but since then have read so many different ways of using it. What do you guys think about my dosage and duration here? Last but not least, I dont have caber listed but I will have it on hand because I have never used Deca before and would rather be safe than sorry. Now what are some early signs of sides from Deca, and should I start to see them what is a good dosage and frequency to start using the caber? Thanx guys, and as always any other input is welcome. I will be starting this cycle on 7-30-12.
Week | Anadrol | TNE | Testosterone Enanthate | Deca | HCG | Anastrozole | Nolva | Clomid |
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1 | 75mg Injection ED | 75mg ED | 600mg | 500mg | 250iu 2x week | .25mg EOD | ||
2 | 75mg Injection ED | 75mg ED | 600mg | 500mg | 250iu 2x week | .25mg EOD | ||
3 | 50mg Oral ED | 75mg ED | 600mg | 500mg | 250iu 2x week | .25mg EOD | ||
4 | 50mg Oral ED | 75mg ED | 600mg | 500mg | 250iu 2x week | .25mg EOD | ||
5 | 50mg Oral ED | 600mg | 500mg | 250iu 2x week | .25mg EOD | |||
6 | 50mg Oral ED | 600mg | 500mg | 250iu 2x week | .25mg EOD | |||
7 | 600mg | 500mg | 250iu 2x week | .25mg EOD | ||||
8 | 600mg | 500mg | 250iu 2x week | .25mg EOD | ||||
9 | 600mg | 500mg | 250iu 2x week | .25mg EOD | ||||
10 | 600mg | 500mg | 250iu 2x week | .25mg EOD | ||||
11 | 600mg | 500mg | 250iu 2x week | .25mg EOD | ||||
12 | 600mg | 500mg | 250iu 2x week | .25mg EOD | ||||
13 | 600mg | 500mg | 250iu 2x week | .25mg EOD | ||||
14 | 600mg | 250iu 2x week | .25mg EOD | |||||
15 | 600mg | 250iu 2x week | .25mg EOD | |||||
16 | 250iu 2x week | .25mg EOD | ||||||
17 | 250iu 2x week | .25mg EOD | ||||||
18 | 500iu 2x week | 40mg ED | 100mg ED | |||||
19 | 40mg ED | 100mg ED | ||||||
20 | 20mg ED | 50mg ED | ||||||
21 | 20mg ED | 50mg ED | ||||||
20mg ED |
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BigSweazSo after much deliberation I decided to keep the cycle as is. Several friends of mine strongly recommended that I run the Deca at 500mg/week and I will have Caber on hand just in case. Just pinned the Test E/Deca, will pin the Androl/TNE tomorro morn about 1 1/2 hr before my workout. I've been priming for about 3 weeks now with a decreased calorie diet, and then when cycle starts ill be hittin roughly 4500 cals a day. The body is feeling great with no injuries and i feel fully recovered (as far as natty test production) from my last cycle. All systems are go and i am ready for blast off.
Deca is too high and anadrol is nasty! Test 12wks...deca 350 for 10Weeks. nolva 4weeks
BigSweazWhat do you mean by anadrol is nasty? And i was always under the impression you should run deca at a minimum of 400mgs/week and for at least 12 weeks, am i wrong? The reason why i run Nolva for 5 weeks is because im prone to bad estro rebound after PCT so i have to taper off a little slower than most.
Anadrol is harsh side effects. Estrogen conversion very high. Hard hard on liver. Deca is used by many at 250-350 depending on cutting or bulking(check cycle logs). You can go 12deca and 14 test if ya choose. Typical first time deca run for third cycle is 500/350. Deca is typically 2:1 ratio to avoid decadick however on the 500/350...folks are reporting great gains and no decadick. The faster you jump your total mgs/week up the faster you're headed over 1000/week. Couple years you'll be 2000/week for small cycle. Only third cycle and too many chemicals imo. You're gonna grow well by keeping it simple. Less sides as well.
Right now you're way over 2000/wk
BigSweazThats a good point, thanx for the help and the elaboration fast. I think ill drop the deca to 400mg/week. I have used drol before and really enjoyed the gains. I know its hard on the liver but i take Liv52 year round, and the only sides i had before from it were minor headaches, so i think ill keep the drol. Thanx again for your help fast.
gearwhoreDbol gains are similar to anadrol gains... i love anadrol. but if i dont take it with an AI... my emotions are out of whack. you can get away with deca @ 200mg...
BigSweazThanx for the input bro. I always run an AI with my cycles and it does help combat the bloat and other sides from the a-bombs. And although i do understand some poeple run deca at low doses to aleviate joint pain, i have always read that if you are looking for a significant anabolic effect from it your supposed to run it at least at 400mgs/week. Dont get me wrong im sure people have ran it lower and gotten good results, im just talking on average. I will most likely keep my cycle as posted above, but change the deca from 500mgs to 400mgs. What i am more concerned about than the deca is whether or not i am running the HCG the correct way to get the best results from it. And also whether i will be able to keep my test levels stable for the first month with once a day TNE shots. I can switch the TNE to prop if need be but would really prefer to use the TNE if i can get away with it.
Tne has halflife just slightly less than prop. Daily should be fine.
Anytime! The Liv support is great idea. Grow well!