+ 3 A SIMPLE First AAS Cycle
I am 6'1 170 lbs @ about 12-15% BF and 23 years old, yes I know I am younger than the recommended "minimum age" but I've done my research and am aware of the possible repercussions. I have been dedicated to the gym since High School when I was 14 and began my training for baseball. I increased my knowledge of proper diet and heavy weight training when getting to college and writing the workout that is currently being used for the baseball team. I am dedicated to the gym by going at least 5 times a week. I try to consume approximately 4000calories a day. Every morning my breakfast is the "kitchen sink wake up shake" by GS9902 (shown to be by cdaddy) and I have been working on my diet and taking every meal idea I could possibly find from eRoids along with a shopping list of healthy foods from:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/a-revolutionary-c...
...which I printed out to study and memorize (:
I will be pinning a total of 400mg/week (200mg M/TH) of Wattson Testosterone Cypionate. I have my anastrozole ready to go in week 4 at .25e3d unless a higher does is needed, also have my Nolva and Clomid on deck in case I run in to any problems.
My overall goals are to be 195/200 lbs solid at the end of this cycle.
This is indeed my first and I am already about 4 weeks in... This is mainly to seek advice on signs to look for of something going wrong (obviously I would probably feel it anyways, but it doesn't hurt to ask right?) and also for some of the newbies to check out a decently put together first AAS cycle... MORE IS NOT ALWAYS BETTER! Keep It Simple Stupid!
So there it is... Any and all info is appreciated (:
Thanks, Coach
| Week | Testosterone Cypionate | anastrozole | Nolvadex | Clomid |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 400mg | |||
| 2 | 400mg | |||
| 3 | 400mg | |||
| 4 | 400mg | .25e3d | ||
| 5 | 400mg | .25e3d | ||
| 6 | 400mg | .25e3d | ||
| 7 | 400mg | .25e3d | ||
| 8 | 400mg | .25e3d | ||
| 9 | 400mg | .25e3d | ||
| 10 | 400mg | .25e3d | ||
| 11 | 400mg | .25e3d | ||
| 12 | 400mg | .25e3d | ||
| 13 | .25e3d | |||
| 14 | .25e3d | |||
| 15 | 40mg | 100mg | ||
| 16 | 40mg | 100mg | ||
| 17 | 20mg | 50mg | ||
| 20mg | 50mg |
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Hey coach! Looks better! Good 12+ lbs gainer cycle! High five
thanks fast! I'm up an average 8lbs already but my weight fluctuates quite often, weighed in at 185 two days ago and 179.4 this morning lol
either way I'm definitely looking a lot bigger! loving this stuff (:
Water will fluctuate a bit. As long as the shirts get tighter in the chest/shoulders etc you're doing great! Keep salt intake low and water intake high....helps keep ya even. Less salt water retention.
Your goal is to add 25-30lbs - Maybe a bit optimistic.
totally is, I agree! but even if I aim high enough and work hard enough, I know I will be satisfied with a solid 15-20lb gain... nothing wrong with being a little bit over-zealous with what you want to achieve!
You being 6' i say a 25-30pd gain is VERY probable. If i were you and it being your first run i would eat, eat again, then EAT SOME MORE! UNless your one of those pencil guys then that large of a frame will fill out ALOT on your first cycle if the proper calories are there, you train hard enough and dont do a ton of cardio. YOur biggest thing tho bro is dont worry about getting fat just eat because this first cycle is the one you WILL gain the most from if done right. I gained a solid 20pds my first cycle and i was already 212 at 6'
A lot of difference between 20 and 30lbs! But hey, nothing wrong with being optimistic is there. All I'm saying to you is don't be disappointed with 10-15lbs, that's a lot of gains. By the time you're my age, you're happy with 5!
Good luck with the cycle fella.
completely understand bro! I'm not truly expecting to get 30lbs out of this cycle but I sure feel like I'm eating enough to yield those results! and shit at this point I'll be happy with a 10lb gain with a lot more defined look and to keep those gains (as opposed to all the PH cycles in my past)
go big or go home right? haha
AnonGranted he could wait awhile, but there could be other circumstances not mentioned that contribute to his weight...4 months ago i was 6'2 175 and a lot of it was due to my prescribed adderall. Agreed, anyone at any age can probably benefit from a 3rd party taking a good look at their diet though. I would suggest doing research on quality Mass gainers as an additional meal throughout the day...earlier than later preferably
Not to nock you bro but at 6'1 you should ATLEAST be 200pds with a lil bodyfat naturally before you hit the gear. I promise you arent eating enough(or the right types) because unless you have a chemical imbalance thats caused you to be so small 170 is tiny for a 6 ftr. I was 185 shredded and only in the gym 8mths (no gear at ALL) I mean your gong to do what you want and this has NOTHING to do with your age i just dont think at that weight that you have a proper hold on your diet and nutrition... Really smart beginner cycle tho i like the fact your not slamming high doses.. Best of luck!!!
I agree, I probably could. but in college I just ate healthy to stay healthy. never wanted to get too too big because frankly baseball players need to stay lean. I was 190 my senior year (best statistical year as well, conference player mutliple times, 18th in nation in 3b's blah blah) but I never wanted to push past that because I pitched occasionally and did not want to lose my range of motion. I've had my diet dialed in for a few months now though with PLENTY of help from the Pro's on here. And thanks bro! I'm already up a solid 8 lbs on this cycle (:
cdaddy7Consider using aromasin in ur PCT...I like the conservative Test cyp dose for 12 weeks...u get ur diet dialed in tight and u will yield very nicely from this 1st run...It's apparent u did ur research brother...+1 from C!!! I am a firm believer in the GS sink shake as well LOL!!! That's the breakfast shake for me as well!!!!!
what would the Aromasin be for? It's similar to the Adex right? and diet has improved quite a bit after spending countless hours (at work none the less) in the "What's for dinner?" section (: and that shake you recommended is the shit! make it every morning when I get to work
cdaddy7Zewi, GS9902, and i did a bit of research together and found that adding Aromasin into the PCT and lowering the Nolvadex dose made the recovery time faster and it was proven with bloodwork...I got some links for u to explore and the site guru tread-m gave his seal of approval to it...see what u think
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/announcing-gc...
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/gcz%E2%80%99s.....
definitely considering it... do you still recommend me throwing aromasin in to my PCT even though it says in those links "not meant for novice users" ?
Not denying I am a novice and that this is my first AAS cycle, but I have done a few PH cycles in college (regretting now after finding liquid gold in a vial though!) Because I will definitely give it a try, especially if no one else has yet lol
cdaddy7When we first presented it it was a trial run and we wanted to detour novices in case it didn't go well...but when zewi's bloodwork came back then we decided to endorse it and tread approved it as well...but It's g2g brother and it will def make the difference just look at z's updates...it was a great success
No1Looks good although you can drop the clomid down to 50/50/25/25
cdaddy7Why would u drop the Clomid dosage? U know that compound alone plays a major part in the LH production in getting ur natty levels back normal for testosterone and sperm production...I wouldn't chance it
No1iv always used 50 tops and thats all iv ever seen anyone recommend on here & its his first cycle and hes 23 years old i highly doubt he will have any problems recovering
Clomid 100...100....50...50. Thats the standard for fully functional furries
cdaddy7I can tell u that GS9902, fast48, Zewi, and i always recommend Clomid ran at 100/100/50/50....so I'm not sure who u are referencing to when u say that's all u have ever seen recommended on this site....even tread-m says that's the protocol...if u have bloodwork and solid reference to this dosages then I would like to see it bc I'm always open to a better way...but as far as i know and have researched the Clomid is optimal at the doses I stated
X 2 I always recommend 100-100-50-50
cdaddy7Thanks lil brother....I left u out, I'm sry bout that LOL....but I have always used and seen those standard dosages...like I said I'm always open for a better way if somebody can show me