Wrong esters on test and tren for cutting... you need shorts bro prop and tren A on a short length cycle... enans wont even kick till wk 4 and then your nearly done.
Tons more research needed for you bro... thought you would have known more at this stage.
Also dump your idea about 8 wk bulkers too! there is no such cycle.
If your trying to cut you are running way to much gear. if you want to see decent results run low dose test. 250-300mgs per week of test e or sustanon. if you're gonna run tren e run it at 400mgs per week or run it 200mgs ever 5 days along with your test and you will see great results. trust me on this. you want to have STABLE blood levels whether cutting or bulking. especially if you are running any form of TREN keep the dosing the same throughout the entire cycle. that proposed cycle spells DISASTER and recovery/pct will be hell. i've heard of pyramiding test but with a drug as powerful as tren is you want your levels to be STABLE to reduce side effects which with tren will be abundant..
Ok I will follow your advice. I'm back on the drawing board. I reduced the test e doses. I'm still looking for other things to change before I start this cycle
I have no problem front loading. If that's what you want to do.
Do you even no what FRONT LOADING IS????
On average it usually takes TEST E 4-6 weeks to kick in so your doing it for 7 why when the AAS world knows you should run it for 12 weeks for best results? Do you really thing front loading makes up for 5 weeks??
Then we get to TREN E that your running for 7 weeks have you every ran TREN do you no what it does?
No on to Mast P which should only be ran if your have LOW BF 10% or lower the lower the better. When Mast P should be ran at the end of a cutting cycle unless you cycle is correct for cutting which this cycle is no.
MastP will help with aromatisation. I've never ran tren before. I'll hand you that. I'm saying it's possible to run shorter cycles with long esters by frontloading them.
"saying it's possible to run shorter cycles with long esters by frontloading them"
Really? so you think that is what front loading is... So you think i you can give yourself a 1000mg and that will last 12 weeks????????
Half Life is Half Life.. give yourself more doesn't mean you can do a shorter cycle.
So you thinking front loading is better? Well you go ahead and run this shit. Short ass front loading cycle.
I wish i new you, so you could run this fucked up no good cycle, and then i run mine and in 12 weeks you tell me who looks better and just kicked you ass in they GYM all fucking 12 weeks of them...
I'm already using an AI, I'm just using masteron in conjunction with tren and test. I liked masteron the first time I used it with test. It made me hard. It was back when I was 11% BF.
we'll work it out guys. Stuborn as I am you guys are making me see what I should be doing. I'll go back to the drawing board. Probaby visit Zewi's cutter cycles and build soemething from there.
Here we go, I forgot to add the aromasin in, I already got some handy and some caber. I agree the EQ was a bad idea. Taking in 4 weeks of EQ in 2 weeks, I'll keep it for future use.
Now I know there are two scools, to frontload or to not frontload... I need advice from front loaders here.
If I am looking at this cycle slapping my forhead, then you know you've screwed up. Please go back to the drawing board for another attempt. Zewi will most likely not have his head explode that way.
naguib123this cycle sucks , wrong gear for cutting , wrong length for bulking
Wrong esters on test and tren for cutting... you need shorts bro prop and tren A on a short length cycle... enans wont even kick till wk 4 and then your nearly done.
Tons more research needed for you bro... thought you would have known more at this stage.
Also dump your idea about 8 wk bulkers too! there is no such cycle.
X2!!
Figure out that test e.....
AnonIf your trying to cut you are running way to much gear. if you want to see decent results run low dose test. 250-300mgs per week of test e or sustanon. if you're gonna run tren e run it at 400mgs per week or run it 200mgs ever 5 days along with your test and you will see great results. trust me on this. you want to have STABLE blood levels whether cutting or bulking. especially if you are running any form of TREN keep the dosing the same throughout the entire cycle. that proposed cycle spells DISASTER and recovery/pct will be hell. i've heard of pyramiding test but with a drug as powerful as tren is you want your levels to be STABLE to reduce side effects which with tren will be abundant..
Ok I will follow your advice. I'm back on the drawing board. I reduced the test e doses. I'm still looking for other things to change before I start this cycle
zewiif your going to run test e make it 12 weeks. If you just want to run a cut, then make it test p and tran a..
Test E takes 4-6 week to kick
Tren the same but really not until 6-8..
You are so using the wrong esters to do this cycle.
Wtf am i looking at? Dude id never run gear again if i was you.
zewiyour looking at prim grad A shit.
zewiI have no problem front loading. If that's what you want to do.
Do you even no what FRONT LOADING IS????
On average it usually takes TEST E 4-6 weeks to kick in so your doing it for 7 why when the AAS world knows you should run it for 12 weeks for best results? Do you really thing front loading makes up for 5 weeks??
Then we get to TREN E that your running for 7 weeks have you every ran TREN do you no what it does?
No on to Mast P which should only be ran if your have LOW BF 10% or lower the lower the better. When Mast P should be ran at the end of a cutting cycle unless you cycle is correct for cutting which this cycle is no.
MastP will help with aromatisation. I've never ran tren before. I'll hand you that. I'm saying it's possible to run shorter cycles with long esters by frontloading them.
zewi"saying it's possible to run shorter cycles with long esters by frontloading them"
Really? so you think that is what front loading is... So you think i you can give yourself a 1000mg and that will last 12 weeks????????
Half Life is Half Life.. give yourself more doesn't mean you can do a shorter cycle.
So you thinking front loading is better? Well you go ahead and run this shit. Short ass front loading cycle.
I wish i new you, so you could run this fucked up no good cycle, and then i run mine and in 12 weeks you tell me who looks better and just kicked you ass in they GYM all fucking 12 weeks of them...
And your Tren is all fucked up..
Masteron is NOT AN AI
I'm already using an AI, I'm just using masteron in conjunction with tren and test. I liked masteron the first time I used it with test. It made me hard. It was back when I was 11% BF.
Bingo! So you have correctly discussed proper use of masteron on a cutter.
Now dump the rest and form a cutter cycle....12 or 8 Weeks.
zewizewiGood. and then come back better. for it.
It's just for your growth man. Its your body. Make it work together n repost..
CleyonI'm feeling the love here. Good job both of you, +1 from me.
After this.....took whole day off. Last few days is all arguments and stress don't help my cycle. Lol. Thanks bro
Here we go, I forgot to add the aromasin in, I already got some handy and some caber. I agree the EQ was a bad idea. Taking in 4 weeks of EQ in 2 weeks, I'll keep it for future use.
Now I know there are two scools, to frontload or to not frontload... I need advice from front loaders here.
The entire layout is poorly planned. All of it.
zewiStill don't like it. Still sucks major ass
Ok tell me why your running TEST e for 7 weeks and at those doses?
Tren E for 7 weeks and at those doses?
and Mast for 8 weeks and at those doses ?
You're leaving me with two options bro:
Making it a 12 week cycle without adding gear and making doses 500 instead of 750... etc...
or
Keep doing a 8 week cycle and cut dosages by 30-40%
Best option....buying proper cutter cycle. Not leftovers.
This is horrible and scarey. Please research and come back. Since its your FIFTH cycle....i'm not hand wiping this one.
zewiI fill you on that FAST..
Cutter just pops half dozen great cycles to mind. I just dunno here. If last cycles failed...i surely can see why.
CleyonIf I am looking at this cycle slapping my forhead, then you know you've screwed up. Please go back to the drawing board for another attempt. Zewi will most likely not have his head explode that way.