ordered gear, counting down the days. hitting cardio 2x day and weights 1x day six days a week now. trying to shed all bf that i can pre-cycle. still contemplating carb cycle ratio for on cycle diet, soon as I figure it out ill post diet details
good job bro very well prepared u should do very well. u may even decide the 6 site injection isnt necessary being youre only pinning 2x a week, i personally hate pinning quads and love hitting the delts but u gotta see what works best for u. ur on the right track and one of the cool things about your first cycle is u learn alot about your body and how u react to certain compounds and can use that information to keep improving yourself and future cycles..good luck!
Man you made me happy reading this. The attention to the slightest detail is awesome. It's exactly how I am too:-)
I even like to plan my meals and estimate my shopping bills too! Awesome job. I even like the HCG portion brother. It may be overkill perhaps but it shows me that u are doing ur homework and want to stay on top of things. I might wait and see if u get atrify before starting the hcg protocol. If u do run it like u have planed. If not save it for a blast at the beginning of PCT. Run it for first two wks of PCT if it goes down that way. You should also continue ur AI use for the first two wks of PCT as well to prevent an estrogen rebound.
All in all this is by far one of the best layouts I've seen in a while! +1 brother
thanks bro! i have gone back and forth on the HCG structure. For now I have decided to run it during...I figured since HCG mimics LH to produce test this would be fine when Im on cycle since LH will be shut down. But, while on pct my production of LH will start back up so I didnt want any interference between the rebounding LH and the test mimic. I know there is no direct study on this but thats my reasoning, actually its more of a hypothesis but we will see. Are you talking about using AI thru PCT only if im running the HCG then right? i def love to plan my meals and i try to plan the bill too, right now im at $125/week so I know from cycle start and after the bill is not going to be pretty
DONT SLAM 2 CC OF TEST FIRST TIMER YOUR HART WILL EXPLODE START WITH 3/4CC AND NEXT WEEK 1CC THEN 1 1/4 CC SLOWLY WORK UP TO 2CC 500 MGS THEN ON THE LAST 3 WEEKS TAPER DOWN THEN OFF NO HCG TELL YOUR LAST WEEK.ON YOUR WORKOUT 2ON ONE OFF THEN OVER AGIN
I dont agree with what you say. Do you have any real reason why he shouldnt start at 500mg/week other than that half ass statement of "your hart* will explode"? I wouldnt pay any attention to what this guy is saying if i were you levelup. If you were to do what he says you wouldnt actually be injecting 500mg/week till week 6, then to keep the cycle at 12 weeks long you would have to immediately taper back down? So you would only inject 500/mg for 1 week of your cycle, doesnt make any sense whatsoever.
500mg/week seems to be the standard protocol for a first cycle? whats you reasoning behind starting with 3/4cc? that would be less of a dose than a standard trt. The HCG till last week is debatable but i have the money to run it during so I dont think it will hurt me. whats your reasoning on working out 2 on and 1 off...i know the obvious is rest but the order of the muscle groups I work dont overlap so I dont understand
Drop the HCG, you don't need HCG with test only. I have yet to take HCG and my balls are fine, even with four cycles under my belt. Gaining 10lbs on your first cycle with test only should be easy if you're going to eat like you say you are.
since my exo test levels will be in the 1000,s by a few weeks in I think the endo test production will stop in order for the body to try to maintain homeostasis. If I am incorrect in this, I dont think the hcg will hurt anything. $50 isnt much to pay if there is even a slight possibility of long term damage
great work bro + 1 for the well done research
ordered gear, counting down the days. hitting cardio 2x day and weights 1x day six days a week now. trying to shed all bf that i can pre-cycle. still contemplating carb cycle ratio for on cycle diet, soon as I figure it out ill post diet details
Very nice bro thank you this is exactly what I needed to see . Im researching now but my upcoming cycle in the fall will look alot like this.
I love seeing post's like this. Can't wait to see the results.
You're solid. All the right precautions .
Definately a G2G bro... homework done well... enjoy yourself
+3 for comprehensive cycle planning.
thanks! just sent a fr, got a few diet ?'s for you
good job bro very well prepared u should do very well. u may even decide the 6 site injection isnt necessary being youre only pinning 2x a week, i personally hate pinning quads and love hitting the delts but u gotta see what works best for u. ur on the right track and one of the cool things about your first cycle is u learn alot about your body and how u react to certain compounds and can use that information to keep improving yourself and future cycles..good luck!
zewiGTG best first cycle i have ever seen posted in sometime.. +3
Thanks! It was pretty much your cycle you posted in a prior thread with a few more details and slight modifications
AnonGood cycle and planning buddy. If only a few others would pay this much attention. You will have a good run, good luck bro.
thanks! cannot wait to get started
Man you made me happy reading this. The attention to the slightest detail is awesome. It's exactly how I am too:-)
I even like to plan my meals and estimate my shopping bills too! Awesome job. I even like the HCG portion brother. It may be overkill perhaps but it shows me that u are doing ur homework and want to stay on top of things. I might wait and see if u get atrify before starting the hcg protocol. If u do run it like u have planed. If not save it for a blast at the beginning of PCT. Run it for first two wks of PCT if it goes down that way. You should also continue ur AI use for the first two wks of PCT as well to prevent an estrogen rebound.
All in all this is by far one of the best layouts I've seen in a while! +1 brother
thanks bro! i have gone back and forth on the HCG structure. For now I have decided to run it during...I figured since HCG mimics LH to produce test this would be fine when Im on cycle since LH will be shut down. But, while on pct my production of LH will start back up so I didnt want any interference between the rebounding LH and the test mimic. I know there is no direct study on this but thats my reasoning, actually its more of a hypothesis but we will see. Are you talking about using AI thru PCT only if im running the HCG then right? i def love to plan my meals and i try to plan the bill too, right now im at $125/week so I know from cycle start and after the bill is not going to be pretty
DONT SLAM 2 CC OF TEST FIRST TIMER YOUR HART WILL EXPLODE START WITH 3/4CC AND NEXT WEEK 1CC THEN 1 1/4 CC SLOWLY WORK UP TO 2CC 500 MGS THEN ON THE LAST 3 WEEKS TAPER DOWN THEN OFF NO HCG TELL YOUR LAST WEEK.ON YOUR WORKOUT 2ON ONE OFF THEN OVER AGIN
Steveb^
Ignore this guy
BigSweazI dont agree with what you say. Do you have any real reason why he shouldnt start at 500mg/week other than that half ass statement of "your hart* will explode"? I wouldnt pay any attention to what this guy is saying if i were you levelup. If you were to do what he says you wouldnt actually be injecting 500mg/week till week 6, then to keep the cycle at 12 weeks long you would have to immediately taper back down? So you would only inject 500/mg for 1 week of your cycle, doesnt make any sense whatsoever.
I'm running 500mg a week. I was just seeing if he couod provide anything to support his statement
500mg/week seems to be the standard protocol for a first cycle? whats you reasoning behind starting with 3/4cc? that would be less of a dose than a standard trt. The HCG till last week is debatable but i have the money to run it during so I dont think it will hurt me. whats your reasoning on working out 2 on and 1 off...i know the obvious is rest but the order of the muscle groups I work dont overlap so I dont understand
StevebDrop the HCG, you don't need HCG with test only. I have yet to take HCG and my balls are fine, even with four cycles under my belt. Gaining 10lbs on your first cycle with test only should be easy if you're going to eat like you say you are.
its more of a precaution...even with just test my endogenous production will stop so i figured it couldnt hurt
StevebTest only you will not get shut down bro, no way. I don't know anyone who does Test only with HCG.
since my exo test levels will be in the 1000,s by a few weeks in I think the endo test production will stop in order for the body to try to maintain homeostasis. If I am incorrect in this, I dont think the hcg will hurt anything. $50 isnt much to pay if there is even a slight possibility of long term damage