posted Wed, 06/04/2014 - 09:58
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6 Week Lean Mass cycle- Test / Finaplix / oral Winn
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Age: 26
Height: 5-10
Weight: 203
BF: 13-15% not 100% sure
Goal:
Age: 26
Height: 5-10
Weight: 195
BF: 10%
Looking to cut up drop body fat. I go to gym and lift weights and work out at home doing the T25 work out for cardio. I think its doable.
Cycle Im on now:
Test C been doing 1 pin a week on monday 400mg. --Keeping this base and stacking onto it
5ius gh 5 days a week
50mg Var ED
was told to replace var with winn
Add Tren (Finaplix)
may even add Mastron
| Week | Testosterone C | Finaplix- Adjust if Need too because of Sides | Oral Winn |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 400mg | 100mg ed first 5 days | |
| 2 | 400mg | 100 eod | 50Ed |
| 3 | 400mg | 100 eod | 50Ed |
| 4 | 400mg | 100 eod | 50Ed |
| 5 | 400mg | 100 eod | 50Ed |
| 6 | 400mg | 100 eod | 50Ed |
| 7 | 400mg | ||
| 8 | 400mg | ||
| 9 | 400mg | ||
| 10 | 400mg | ||
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So looking past the miss use of terms and such and all that, how would one take this cycle to make it work? My goal is to cut fat % down more and cut up adding lean mass if that's the choice of words to use for what I'm thinking. Open to adding and removing compounds. I don't want to be big big so to speak.
In your response to me below you said:
So, why are you still talking about this cycle?
Exactly bro. Im not a young argant kid like most on here who dont listen or take advice. What's wrong with compiling and setting up cycles for the future. I want to build a personal cycle database. Is there something wrong with that? I know what's been done wrong from the advice that's been given I'm following directions from the older guys who's posted. Aka you and the rest who's posted. I also stated besides my mess ups how would one make a cycle like this work aka me asking what could all you guys do to make this cycle ideal and perfect to the best of your smarts and experiences. Not saying I'm going to do it now be kinda stupid of me right.or would it better to post every compound I have and let you guys go to town to build my next cycle, idk I'm not looking for big headed smart ass comments that are short I'm looking for detailed big brother take the little guy under the wing with experience comments.
Thing that's been done wrong have been pointed out -done
Advice to take a break start pct to save the nuts- done
Diet advice and cardio my diets good and I do a shit tone of cardio -done.
Advice to make a perfect cycle adding subtracting compounds this and that- not accomplished
Don't take any thing I said the wrong way it's not directed to you or any one its just a common thing in all these cycle post. Makes the serious people who want to do things right just give up and wing it. And then people die or mess there selfs up really bad. Eroids is suppose to be a helpful informational site for people to ask advice.
Catalyst already offered (below) to help you build an appropriate cycle once you're off and PCT is done and your labs show that you have recovered. So, take him up on his offer and don't fret about your next cycle at this point. Good Luck bro.
Thanks apprechiate the advice bro.
Not sure if you're not grasping the advice or just don't want to hear it - no adding anything. Removing - yes, all if it.
Off gear - PCT, then time off. Considering how long you've been on for, about 6 months off at least.
You want to cut BF? Diet and cardio. I'm concerned about the way you're approaching this mate, genuinely.
I understand what your saying the advice been taken brother. Diets good i promise you that cardio is good I promise you that. If anyone knows T25 work out they know it's a loaf of cardio I do it every day. I goofed on the cycle part and how I stated things
Good man. Nobody wants you to feel like we're giving you shit, just want you to be safe. Can see what you're saying about future planning, one thing at a time.
If you want me to look at your diet in detail, drop me a pm and I'll help you out if I can. Same goes for future cycles. Get off, have done time off to get your natural test rocking again then I'll help you set up a future cycle ok?
+2 for a good attitude.
Apprechiate it bro. I like to use apps to keep track there's two I use one for diet plans called dietpoint and for keeping track of calories called myfitnesspal good apps and had success with them. I always have a positive attitude on things some times I just feel like can't get no where with a question to prep for the future when people get stuck on the small f up of now.
waltrthis is good advice.
I can't tell you how many guys around me I've run into, who have 15-20% BF and think they wanna run Winnie only or Var only so they can shed BF. Obviously you can't know until your educated, but you would hope people would use the internet and filter through all the bro science and learn how ridiculous this is.
Hang around, you'll see plenty of them here too!
I'm old school mate, BF = Diet. Everyone is way too quick to use compounds to solve a nutritional problem.
Oh I've been around, just under a different name. Just wish I would have changed the name instead of wiping clean my entire ADV status I worked so hard to build
To make it work; take Catalyst's advice and start your PCT immediately. You already ran your "cycle" for 16 weeks now; a normal cycle is 12-14 and you are now way over it. 400mg a week is not a trt dose also by any means. If you also were taking var for that long too your liver is dying.
Noted bro will do. Thanks
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Self prescribed TRT dose of test at 400mg / wk? Is there some basis to you deciding on TRT like low test results / doc etc? 400mg/wk is not TRT and to be blunt it's clear you don't understand the concept nor does your friend that suggested it.
You need to come off gear and try and recover or you're jeopardising your chances of natural test production. Otherwise you're increasing your chances if genuinely needing to be on TRT, pinning test for the test of your life just to feel "normal". You're too young to have to worry about stuff like that unless there's a medical issue.
Thanks for the advice and concern bro. I'm using wrong terms, as I stated below to gearhead. As far as how I feel I feel fine haven't had any issues what so ever. No medical issues that involveing test and all that just back pain iv had most my life.
so let me try and get this, are you on trt or are you just doing a trt?
I'm running my test c one pin a week like TRT. Reason why was so I can run var. I was told by a buddy who's more experienced than I who said I would be ok with running low dose of test c TRT style once a week and run var a long side it.
Is the 400 mg / wk Test C perpetual? I'm asking cause u are calling it a TRT cruise?
So, u want to drop 11 lbs body fat and gain 3 pounds of muscle in 6 weeks?
I really never like to tell people they can't achieve goals. Before I give you my humble opinion on that goal, can u tell me in detail what your diet is gonna look like?
Yes sir been running it like that as my base for a while now no issues one pin a week for about 4 months now.
Diet I have cut my diet down majorly I use to eat everything in site. now its prob like 2000 cal a day snacks are high protein things like nuts and beef jerky and them tuna packs but like I said below its mainly jasmine rice chicken steam veg or steak and that combo for got the pork tenderloin i scale my meats out about 4-5 oz and half cup rice full cup of veg basically the jist of it when it comes to my diet. drink a shit ton of water too. every now and then depending if i need that boost ill drink a red bull.
started at 220 lbs 4 months ago 25% body fat iv dropped a lot of weight to 203 bf is a guess since i don't have the device on hand right now but when i did it about two months ago when i was at 210 said 13%. BF up in the air weight is 203 idk if that helps you
Bro,
If you value your balls and your liver you need to stop the roids NOW. Someone you trust has given you very bad advice. You have been running a cycle of 400 mg Test Cyp / wk and 50 mg var ED for 16 weeks. You need to stop and in a couple of weeks start PCT (post cycle therapy). If you continue you run the risk of not being able to recover your own natural testosterone production and becoming a lifetime TRT patient for real. Do you understand? 400 mg / wk of Test is NOT a low dose. A typical TRT program might be 200 mg of test every two weeks. I know this because I am a TRT patient.
GearHead
Let me rephrase what I said. It was my goof using the term TRT I'm not doing a actually TRT I'm doing it in a since of pinning schedule wise I should say if that makes more since. I really apprechiate the concerns and advice you guys are giving me. I will stop and take a break and do a pct. I wouldn't say iv been on cycle for 16 weeks, it's all a guesstament there's been a few weeks that I had missed due to moving packing and just having a crazy schedule to say the lease. I have a huge stock pile of diff compounds and can easily say I got about 6 cycle or more that can be put togeather this cycle was just a idea based off a discussion I had with a buddy and what my overall goal is. I really apprechiate all the advice I'm getting thabks guys
Whats your cycle history? Have you ever run tren before? You are looking to cut 5% body fat in 6 weeks with no mention of nutrition. Just because you run tren and winstrol, doesnt mean you are going to cut up automatically.
Also, brand name Finaplix is typically trenbolone enanthate, which is useless in a 6 week cycle. What kind of tren are you going to be using? If it truly in Finaplix, you need to run it 12+ weeks or you wont gain a thing. And if its truly Tren E, and you havent run it before, 100mg a day is going to take you to hell at that bodyweight.
Not taking the OP's side on the achievable goals aspect of this cycle but just to clarify for you before you give him any advice please be aware that finaplix is tren a at it's best....not even fucking close to enanthate
Yep my bad, I read that the new (reintroduced) Finaplix-H was using enanthate so the farmers had to inject less frequently. Bad info.
No worries brother, I just point out facts and make my exit. Not worth the headache or being banned for starting shit.....where did you find that fina pellets are being made with an enanthate ester? The last I've seen with them was that they added estrogen into the acetate pellets so they couldn't be broken down and abused as easily. A lot of over emotional cows out there these days
I was just googling it, not sure which result it was where I read that. I didnt even know they were back on the market but apparently they are gone again, replaced by the ones with estrogen in them to reduce abuse by humans.
Sorry bout the lack of info. Let's see I'd say iv done two cycles when I was younger of test e and then test e tren couldn't tell you exactly dosage and all that, I was under recommended age at 21.
Currently my cycle is 5ius gh Monday tuesday weds day thursday saturday. Friday off Sunday off. Monday TRT pin once a week @ 400mg test c and 50mg var.
Diets pretty clean for most part and consist of jasmine rice steam veg chicken or steak. Lettuces wraps and spaghetti every now and then.
I do T25 for cardio everyday with the wife.
Finaplix is the real deal made from the pellets. I got two 10ml vials at 100mg ml and is told its slightly over dose from that. (Seen pellets my self packaging and all said tren a on it not tren e ) I was told to run 100mg first 5 day and then eod after and if side come into play adjust dosage.
I'm open to hear recommendations with these compounds.