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2nd Cycle Thoughts

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

add 20lbs by Mid-cycle, cut to 5-10lbs by week 12

WeekTestosterone EnanthateTbolAnast.ClomidNolva
1250mg x 2wkly50mg ed.25mg eod
2250mg x 2wkly50mg ed.25mg eod
3250mg x 2wkly50mg ed.25mg eod
4250mg x 2wkly50mg ed.25mg eod
5250mg x 2wkly50mg ed.25mg eod
6250mg x 2wkly50mg ed.25mg eod
7250mg x 2wkly.25mg eod
8250mg x 2wkly.25mg eod
9250mg x 2wkly.25mg eod
10250mg x 2wkly.25mg eod
11250mg x 2wkly.25mg eod
12250mg x 2wkly.25mg eod
13.25mg eod
14.25mg eod
15100mg ed40mg ed
16100mg ed40mg ed
1750mg ed20mg ed
50mg ed20mg ed
fast48's picture

Why is adex double the normal dose??

Cjplay's picture

I'm running this right now e3d and everything is good. No joint issues ect. What concern should I have or what should I keep an eye out for?

fast48's picture

Just a strong dose. But if its working....party on!

fast48's picture

Start with test only....if bf is low Varl last 6. 8-14. You already know diet makes the goals.

Cjplay's picture

I've put 15 lbs on with my current cycle(test only). If I had to cut one I think I'd rather cut the Dbol. What do ya think?

mjunkie's picture

seems like your confused, dbol and winny are used for different goals, what are your goals???

Cjplay's picture

I'd like to put on some size but want to be pretty lean at the end of the cycle

mjunkie's picture

switch the dbol for tbol, and forget about the winny just a keep a really clean diet and youll be nice and lean throughout your cycle, not sure why youre so bent on taking winny, all it does is dry u out when youre at a really low bf% and maybe give u some strength, thats why ppl use it for cutters

Cjplay's picture

I like that. Thanks to you from my liver.

gatorbits's picture

Winny is most def advanced AAS

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mjunkie's picture

no problem bro, and u can extend the tbol to 6 weeks since it takes time to start working

mechtech's picture

I believe you need to be about 10% bf to get the full effects, correct me if I'm wrong mj.

mjunkie's picture

10% is OK, but id say single digits is when u see the most out of it, dryness...vascularity...

mechtech's picture

Set a simple goal for the cycle. Either bulk or cut. If you want to bulk just keep the diet clean and do light cardio 3-4 times a week.

fast48's picture

dbol is waterlig...Winny is dry joints.
Dont double dip 17aa
Stats n goals

Cjplay's picture

Is there a way to keep both and adjust the dosage?

fast48's picture

Nope. You're killing your liver. You want 20(water) to dry out and keep 12. Why not use a proper cycle and go straight to goal? Not worry bout high bp, estro, edema.

Cjplay's picture

Holy Sh!t bro, it's like your speaking Spanglish. Give that to me in newbie speed.

mechtech's picture

Dbol is hella water retention. Makes you feel like a fatty, lol.

Cjplay's picture

That's what I'm worried bout. It takes a mental tole to watch the waste line go.

Cjplay's picture

But, I still like my liver.lol

mjunkie's picture

drop the winny bro, you dont need it, all you need to do is adjust your diet to reach your goal, and besides the winny wont do anything for u unless u already have low bf, otherwise it looks good

Cjplay's picture

I think I'm going to be ok. Its just the timing. This cycle will end right at the beginning of the summer. Ya know! I also think I have the opportunity to try 2 new compounds in the same cycle without overlap.

mjunkie's picture

i dont think 3 weeks is enough for your liver to recover from the dbol, and like i said since your cycle seems like a bulker youre probably going to gain some fat which makes the winstrol a waste of money

Cjplay's picture

Still on first cycle and everything has gone perfect so far. Looking ahead to next spring for 2nd cycle advice. I will post stats as start date gets closer.