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TheSpartan
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

24 years old
5'10
192 lbs

My overall goal is to bulk and put on some quality muscle. I'm open to any criticisms and tweaks that would help me get the most out of this cycle. Thanks in advance!

WeekTest-ETest-PArimidexNolvadexClomid
11000mg100mg EOD.5mg EOD
21000mg100mg EOD.5mg EOD
31000mg100mg EOD.5mg EOD
41000mg100mg EOD.5mg EOD
51000mg.5mg EOD
61000mg.5mg EOD
71000mg.5mg EOD
81000mg.5mg EOD
91000mg.5mg EOD
101000mg.5mg EOD
111000mg.5mg EOD
121000mg.5mg EOD
13150mg EOD.5mg EOD
14150mg EOD.5mg EOD
15100mg EOD.5mg EOD
16100mg EOD.5mg EOD
17.5mg ED20mg ED100mg ED
18.5mg ED20mg ED100mg ED
1910mg ED50mg ED
2010mg ED50mg ED
TheSpartan's picture

What I was saying was is three doses in one week and four doses in the other like this:
Week one: Pin Mon, Wed, Fri (three doses in total)
Week two: Pin Sun, Tues, Thurs, Sat (four doses in total)

See what I mean?

strongman480's picture

prop does not count as your weekly. 400 mg at the end of the week is only 200 mg.

j223's picture

100eod = 350mg per week not 400

prop does not count as your weekly

really? I did not know that! I'll be doubling my daily prop dose to 200mg then since that would only mean 700 per week??? Never heard this before. That makes no sense either since prop has a 3 day half life longer than ACE by a day so I should be pinning more tren ace daily also?? WTF I don't understand your logic at all

strongman480's picture

here we go again with this. look it up im not going to find it for you. and how does 100 mg EOD= 350mg

j223's picture

100mg eod. Well to put it in simple terms lets make it easy and say 100mg = 1ml (we are assuming 1ml = 100mg)
Since there are 7 days in a week, divided by eod (2) that would mean you simply divide 7 days by eod (2).

7 divided by 2 = 3.5
so you are going to pin 3.5ml's in a single week.

or 7ml's in 2 weeks
2 weeks = 14 days
14 days divided by 2 = 7ml or 700mg per 2 weeks

strongman480's picture

so what about a sun. tues. thurs. sat pinning that = 400 mg

j223's picture

you can not pin set days EOD you literally have to pin one day then take a day off. You do NOT follow the days of the week because that is NOT EOD.

EOD = EVERY OTHER DAY

not sunday, tuesday, thursday, saturday because then you are not pinning eod

there are 7 days in a week. That is an odd number. every other day would mean one day on one day off. that comes out to 2 total days. since 7 does not divide evenly by 2, you can not follow the days of the week for your pinning schedule if you choose to pin EOD.

strongman480's picture

o.k i can see that, but prop still does not count as your weekly. when you pin your third time the first injection is gone and when you pin your 4th time your second dose has been used up.

j223's picture

Active half-life
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days

Ester half life: Propionate 2 days

test prop has an active life of about 2 days AFTER the ester has been cleaved off

strongman480's picture

i told him to go look it up. he does this all the time about the prop.

j223's picture

PROP is dead in 48 hours. PROPIONATE = ESTER

that is correct propionate is gone in 48 hours. But there is STILL active testosterone in your system for another 2 days.

there is 2 things going on here. Active life of the DRUG, and half life of the ESTER
the half life of the ester gets included into the active life. So once the half life of prop is done we are left with some leftover test for a remainder of 2 days. (2.5 technically, but I won't include that)

alloneword's picture

Even if that was case, if you pinned prop on Monday, it would be gone by Sunday. That's why you don't count weekly value of prop.
If you ate a steak on Monday and shit it out by Thursday it doesn't count towards your macros on Sunday Smile
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/test-prop-and-counting-...

j223's picture

If you ate a steak on Monday and shit it out by Thursday it doesn't count towards your macros on Sunday

Well I count my calories by the day not by the week.

Even if that was case, if you pinned prop on Monday, it would be gone by Sunday. That's why you don't count weekly value of prop.

You are correct, the prop would be gone by sunday. But that's not what were trying to do. A weekly value is simply a mathematical way of representing how much we need to inject. In the case of prop you are ingesting 350mg of testosterone for the week (pinning 100eod)
That's the number we use to give an idea of how much to pin. When someone is pinning eod sure after 2 days the half life of the ester is dead and your left with a little remainder for 2 days. This goes on after each injection. It does not overlap past a second injection so you also have to subtract that. My point is there is a steady supply of testosterone in your system throughout the week because we are pinning EOD.

So if we say, "I'm injecting 350mg per week test prop" you are still injecting 350mg of drug into your system total for that week. The amount active in your bloodstream will not be exactly 350mg. Does that make sense? What I'm saying is the 100eod is just a guideline of how much to inject. You can also say 350mg per week as long as it is injected eod for steady blood levels. It still counts as a weekly value. How much exactly? I don't know and I sure as hell don't feel like trying to calculate the specifics for a week

alloneword's picture

Gotcha bro.