posted Tue, 07/31/2018 - 17:38
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-1 1st Cycle Test E, Dbol .........
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
I am 5"8
175lbs
13%-15% Bf
26 years old
I've been training for about 6 years now on/off and am looking to step up my game.
I've done research and am looking to gain some decent lean mass, what way should i run arimidex?
Any criticism or help is appreciated.
And a pct cycle 2 weeks after test e
I also play amateur rugby, how will this effect my performance?
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Dianabol | Arimidex |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg(250 Monday AM, 250 Thursday PM) | 30mgED | |
| 2 | 500mg(250 Monday AM, 250 Thursday PM) | 30mgED | .25EOD |
| 3 | 500mg(250 Monday AM, 250 Thursday PM) | 30mgED | .25EOD |
| 4 | 500mg(250 Monday AM, 250 Thursday PM) | 30mgED | .25EOD |
| 5 | 500mg(250 Monday AM, 250 Thursday PM) | .25EOD | |
| 6 | 500mg(250 Monday AM, 250 Thursday PM) | .25EOD | |
| 7 | 500mg(250 Monday AM, 250 Thursday PM) | .25EOD | |
| 8 | 500mg(250 Monday AM, 250 Thursday PM) | .25EOD | |
| 9 | 500mg(250 Monday AM, 250 Thursday PM) | .25EOD | |
| 10 | 500mg(250 Monday AM, 250 Thursday PM) | .25EOD | |
| 11 | 500mg(250 Monday AM, 250 Thursday PM) | .25EOD | |
| 12 | 500mg(250 Monday AM, 250 Thursday PM) | .25EOD | |
| 13 | .25EOD | ||
| 14 | .25EOD |
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Every cycle you should add one more drug. Not all at the same time. That way you know what each drug will do. Once you have a couple cycles under your belt you can play an orchestra. I would start PCT after 3 weeks just really make sure all the esters cleared. If you start at 2 weeks you will still have 125mg of test in you which is a trt dose and will prevent you from stimulating your natural production.
yeah and after 10 cycles you'll be next ronnie Coleman ....
You should at most 1 (if not any) more drugs. I can't believe people do not understand what I am saying.
Natural selection at it's finest right here.
RustyhookerDude!!! 5 cycles means 5 chemicals. Catch up on modern steroidal uses. ;)
You did not read what I wrote. Ignorance is bliss.
RustyhookerI now see why youre so happy.
how did you know
That is foolish advice. Most people really need to never run anything more than test.
More foolish advice. It can take many years of cycling to really understand what these compounds can do and how they interact with other and the risks exponentially increase the more compounds you start adding. Stacking compounds can produce entirely diifferent sides than what you would experience from that compound if ran solo. Stacking adds a whole new realm of complexity and is not as simple as saying I have ran this compound before so now I can stack it with this other compound I ran before.
You misinterpreted what I was saying. Partly my fault for writing it so poorly. I never recommended adding more and more drugs. Rather, if you are going to add multiple compounds, you should do one at a time. Do you think it is bad advice to say NOT to run multiple new compounds all simultaneously?
RustyhookerSmdh.... youre yolo style is bullcrap.
what you even talking about
bro read my thread, I was having calves issues with dbol at 30mgs/day .. they get so pumped I could not walk .. lower back too .. you will get BIG, I am eating at maintenance/deficit and got much bigger (mostly water though) .. a bit better now that I went down to 20mgs/day .. still didn't try going for a run or playing basketball while on dbol .. about the arimidex for what I searched and read and etc it should be fine .. I was planning the same cycle with the same doses ... I guess someone with experience will help more .. and I do guess you need your arimidex from the start ... from week 1 .. I got itchy nipples on day 5 .. I turned out that I don't aromatise at a high degree, as I'm still with no AI (was at 300mgs test e/30mgs dbol .. now at 350msg test e/20mgs dbol) but if I got itchy nipples on day 5 .. then maybe if you aromatise you should consider starting the AI week 1 .. or if you have nolva on hand if you feel itchy nipples take a 10mg tablet you will be fine.. but don't use nolva when you are using arimidex I read they interfere with each others .. but if you are playing rugby man if you get the calves pumps you're fucked .. but hey everybody is different .. I didn't get bp issues moonface gyno red skin ed .. I got terrible pumps instead .. If that happens lower the dose ..
thanks for the help
keep the dbol for your next go just with test!! why the rush for dbol its your first cycle !!
Does the dosage for test e look fine then?
yes buddy test dose is g2g!!
thanks man
what about adex?
you can start as you are @0.25eod and if you get to much water weight then change it to 0.5 m/w/f ,and dont start with adex until week 2!
thanks, do i run it with pct or cut it out completely then?
you run it until pct ,then off
You could use another 15# natty and a couple yrs before running a cycle.....if your going to do it anyway then I would suggest only a low to moderate dose of long ester test only! Dbol isn’t warranted here imo
Also do some more reading up on ai usage, that’s a lot of Adex with out knowing how you convert into estro
No mention of bloodwork, so that’s another area to look into
What about pct? Again, no mention of it here...this is just as important as any other part of a successful cycle...
My bloodwork is also fine
what does 15# natty mean sorry i dont understand? And why a couple of years before running cycle what difference would it make if I ran it now?
What mg of test would you recommend?
My pct cycle is as follows 15 days after last injection
Clomid 100/100/50/50
nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Hcg?
Is Hcg necessary? If so in what way?
Wouldn't sweat on HCG on a test only first cycle bro....usually not recommended. Best for long EQ cycles and 19nors
I meant that you should take a couple more yrs and add 15 lbs or so of lean mass before you even need to consider using aas... at your weight, you are not at your maximum natural potential. Nutritional manipulation and gym time is what will get you the lean mass your after... once you’ve exhausted all you can natty, then a test only cycle may be justified...
Okay so I should have been more specific.
I am currently at 82kg (181lbs) go by kg so I just did the maths in my head.
I was at 86kg (190lbs) October last year at about 17% body fat and cut down to look pretty shredded , im currently recovering from both knees injury so I have went very light on legs last while causing me to lose size also went travelling for a few weeks so i reckon ive been not far off reaching genetic potential.
appreciate the help.
He suggested that you could probably gain another 15 pounds naturally before running aas. ...and id suggest dropping the dbol also brother....from personal experience its just not worth the extra sides on a first cycle. Diet and training are on point I presume? Like drok said above bloodwork and AI dosing is a top priority especially in a first cycle....there's a lot of vets here that will chime in shortly so heed direction and learn everything possible