+ 1 1st/ cycle Swap Amax with Aromasin pics (uk)
age 27.5
bf: you all can judge (not sure myself)
height: 5"8
weight: 70kgs / 154.4 lbs It plays between 68 - 70 kgs
(2ndish, 1st cycle 7 yrs ago stopped because didn't know shit) just being real. 4 weeks of test e an dbol.
I'm looking for size for now I have been training near to 2 full year's shame i just don't show it lol
I train 5 days a week and eat to what is expected, before I looked to roids i fixed what needed to be fixed
(Diet,Training,Sleep) I've been taking supplements to mainly bcaa's, Zma's, Whey and Creatine
still currently on kre alkalyn.
As the year's kick in I am starting to see that the gains are taking very long to show..
Anyway thanks for reading here's something that I've been thinking of doing and again I'm open to all suggestions
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Dianabol | Aromasin | Nolvadex / Clomid |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 600mg (2pins) | 30mg ED (everyday) | When needed | |
| 2 | 600mg | 30mg | EOD (everyotherday) | |
| 3 | 600mg | 30mg | ||
| 4 | 600mg | 30mg | ||
| 5 | 600mg | 12.5 | ||
| 6 | 600mg | 12.5 | ||
| 7 | 600mg | 12.5 | ||
| 8 | 600mg | 12.5 | ||
| 9 | 600mg | 12.5 | ||
| 10 | 600mg | 12.5 | ||
| 11 | 600mg | 12.5 | ||
| 12 | 600mg | 12.5 | ||
| 13 | 12.5 | |||
| 14 | 12.5 | |||
| 15 | 12.5 | 40mg / 100mg | ||
| 16 | 12.5 | 40mg / 100mg | ||
| 17 | 20mg / 50mg | |||
| 18 | 20mg / 50mg |
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thanks for all the responses, I've taken the Deca out,
the more I read up about it the more shit I hear about it. But one day I do want to try it
I know alot of guys who say nothing but good things about it.
I want to leave dbol in, I'm not going crazy with the dosage, Just want to experiment see how it is with my body.
thank you once again brothers
I still don't think you should be running the dbol this run. The reason for this is you'r already adding a good dose of test to your system (which is no joke) and you need to see how you react to it. When you through another compound in, especially a strong oral, you won't know what is doing what and you could run into issues. I'm glad to see you dumped the deca. I would wait on that until you've done 5-6 sucessful cycles. You're AI seems a little high for just 500 mg of test. You may want to see how you're doing and then get some bloods drawn. I told you I would +1 you if you made changes, so here you go. Please keep us updated.
i was actually thinking of dropping the Amex and going with aromasin seeing as the new Aromasin is the new best AI, and then just waiting for certain sides to kick in to start with the AI's, thanks for +1
I wouldn't say aromasin is better, just different (check in the AI/PCT forum to see the difference). You need estrogen to grow and you also need to see how your body reacts and how it aromatizes your test. Everyone's body is different, so you need to check your sides and get bloods drawn. Keep things simple and eat big and you'll have a great cycle.
thanks for all the help vhman really appreciate it.
A little question on the AI's as I'm reading loads more about them
it is best to wait until you see some side's before taking them right?
and do you think running aromasin through pct is a good choice?
and stopping 2 weeks in so my e2 levels are no so suppressed?
Perfect responses below. Drop the Deca and dbol and stick with the test. Please make these changes and post them up. Once you do, I'll give you a +1.
thanks for the advise bro
First cycle?? Drop deca. No way, way too advanced. No run test only for first cycle.
Cycle is off, do NOT even think about running deca that's not a good setup you have not to mention it's way too harsh for a first/second cycle. You arent using caber and pct is completely wrong ai dose is off and test is off
what's your diet look like? your pretty light 154lbs looks like you need to work on that before fucking around with dbol and test
thanks for the advise bro, the more I look into Deca the more I hear bad about it
roughneck12I can say this . It will be your first real cycle.
Wk 1 -12 Test E 500mg split a wk.
Wk 2-12 AI A-dex .25 eod
Start PCT 2 weeks after last pin
wk 1-2 clomid 100mg ed
Nolva 40mg ed.
wk 3-4 clomid 50mg ed
Nolva 20 ed.
Just this will get you gains if diet is spot on and training to max.
Nothing but Test 1st cycle.
T.E 4 wks did nothing but shut down natty. min is 10 wks.
I won't recommend a tapper because I think you should feel the soft slow crash. So you know your body as it crash . Be helpful later.
more brothers will come and critique cycle I gave.
my friend deca dosage is very good for first time running a similar cycle with the same amount i am at week 10 and everything is good you must extend your testosterone injections two more weeks you don"t stop deca and testo together never.caber on hand for high prolactin issues and maybe you should add some aromasin in cycle for estro rebound thats the little i know.i hope to help you!!
roughneck12You ok a cycle without a Proper on cycle Ai and dose. Caber if you find it is usually bunk and If e2 spikes and it's bunk . He's milking from new breast. No letro for emergency and no pct. You should not give cycle advice bro.
thanks for the advise bro
roughneck12No brother it's his 1st real cycle. No deca. You will mess him up and get mod on you.
Yeah, roughneck is right. He doesn't need me to back him up (just look at his karma). But definitely listen to him. Deca is great. But it's not for your first cycle. Stick with test, brother. Do it right and you'll see some great gains without stacking a 19-nor.
After you do a cycle or two with test, that's when you should start thinking about a stacking compound. And Deca may or may not be what you decide to stack. But, if you do, make sure you do some research on prolactin/progestin. The estrogen blockers may not be enough.
thanks for the advise bro
roughneck12Thank you , regardless of karma . We need everyone to stop this B.S. I did it on second cycle with Tren after nitti and others said no. I messed up. Wish I had not. He is young and no knowledge of gear as it should be known. Co sighing for this needs to end. +2 form me.