posted Mon, 11/12/2012 - 23:11
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-2 12 week Test Enanthate cycle
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
stats
27
6'1
184 lbs
8% bf
expectations
put on lean mass
Carbs usually about 400g/day
Protein about 250-300g/day
fats about 70g/day
from time to time i still treat myself to ice cream, pizza, candy, etc... but it's in very small servings
| Week | IGF-1 LR3 | Nolvadex | Clomid | Aromasin | Test E |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | ||||
| 2 | 500mg | ||||
| 3 | 6.25mg/ed | 500mg | |||
| 4 | >> | 500mg | |||
| 5 | >> | 500mg | |||
| 6 | 500mg | ||||
| 7 | 500mg | ||||
| 8 | 500mg | ||||
| 9 | 500mg | ||||
| 10 | 500mg | ||||
| 11 | 500mg | ||||
| 12 | << | 500mg | |||
| 13 | << | ||||
| 14 | 6.25mg/ed | ||||
| 15 | 60mcg/pwo subq | 40mg | 100mg | 6.25mg/eod | |
| 16 | 40mcg | 40mg | 100mg | ||
| 17 | 40mcg | 20 | 50 | ||
| 18 | 20 | 50 | 6.25mg/eod |
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Pct still wrong. Dose wrong. Var dosr wrong. Go read the hundred plus cycle logs and research instead of trolling for spoonfeeds. Smh! Wanna inject but no research!!
JohnnyBlackhes gonna cycle without the research obviously... PCT needs to be pushed down 2 weeks. var dosage 50mg-100mg depending...
thanks everyone, I took out the anavar and EQ, added test E and put the var back in for the last 4 weeks.
does it matter if i use test e or cyp?
You state that you ran deca by itself for 3 weeks then you had to quit because of deca dick? Now you want to run EQ by itself with no test STILL???? IMO either run test at 400mg per week by itself or run it at 200mg per week just as a replacement dose. But ALL testosterone sides can be managed.
Do not worry about estrogen you could be like me and NOT NEED AN AI. I still take it even though I do not tend to suffer estrogen sides. Maybe you are like me and can get by with 0.25mg arimidex 2x per week.
Drop the liver crap and drop the anavar. Anavar at 25mg is LITERALLY A GIRLS DOSE. I know girls who take more than 25mg of var. For men 25mg will be a complete waste of money and all it will do is fuck up your cholesterol levels and you will see no gains.
EQ MUST be run for 14 to 18+ weeks and at 600mg. Why 600? Because that is a great balance of anabolic effect vs side effects. At that dose you will see all the benefits of Boldenone with little to no side effects.
And finally you must wait at least 3 weeks YES THREE WEEKS after your last EQ shot before starting PCT.
Diet: Try to add more protein and completely REMOVE all protein shakes. Count your macros without the protein shakes and I promise you will be nowhere close to 250g/day. Carbs you need MORE CARBS. Carbs - pasta, bread, rice etc. If you want to gain muscle you need excess carbs so your body breaks the carbs down for fuel. If you do not have enough excess carbs your body will use the protein for energy INSTEAD of muscle building.
so are you saying don't drink whey after my workout and stick to food protein sources or just don't count my shake towards my macros?
exactly. Don't use your shake towards your macros.
that way you are getting 300 grams of protein from natural foods without using shakes.
I gained 36lbs my first cycle and I didn't use a protein shake once. protein shakes are not a necessity
Anon??? This cycle is all bad. EQ needs to be run at the very least 600mg per week for 14 weeks minimum to even see decent results. Most dont even notice it until 10-12 weeks. If you're that worried about testosterone sides run test e at 250mg per week trt dose. Do not pyramid the doses either keep them the same to keep blood levels stable. Run the test e two weeks longer than the EQ. Also run the anavar at least 50mg per day FOR THE LAST 6 WEEKS ONLY to harden up your gains. You may also want to add Aromasin and/or Arimidex to combat any sides.
thanks! I'm thinking about getting rid of the EQ altogether and starting with test e 250mg/week. My friend wants to give me his remaining 4MLs of prop, would it be prudent to "jump start" with prop the first or two then switch to test e or is that just another mess? i don't want to offend my friend for refusing a gift lol
I know you want to keep dose low but try to start at 350 or 400mg per week for testosterone by itself. I promise sides will be pretty much non existent at 400 and gains will be almost as good as 500mgs.
Anonno you would need 4 weeks worth of prop 4ml is only enough for one week.
Up your nolv to 40mg the first two weeks, push the Var to wk4"ish"-10"ish" at 50mg, bump the eq to 400mg, and toss some test in there; cyp or enan at 500mg. This is just MY opinoin...do what you want bro. #DoWork
is there a ratio for AI needed depending on the amount of test per week? for instance:
test E 250mg/week... arimidex 0.25mg e3d
test E 400mg/week... arimidex 0.25mg eod
Ti wouldn't say there is a "ratio" but typically more test means more AI is needed.
Everybody responds differently to gear resulting in .25e3d being sufficient while some may need it every day. You have to learn your body and find what works for you. The typical starting dose is .25e3d and than assess your symptoms from there after a week or two. If you still are showing signs of gyno drop it to every other day etc. I know guys that have ran a gram a day but they were also in contest prep and taking in several different types of gear.
a gram a day of arimidex? am I reading that right?? That would come out to 4000 0.25mg tablets or 1000 1mg tablets per day. 1 gram = 1000mg
mybad...typo. Yes. 1mg a day.
long day at work i guess...
thanks!
Should run the EQ 12-14 weeks drop the var till the last 4 weeks save your liver
And like everyone said you need test
thanks, really appreciate the advice.
AnonRun test e at least 250mg per week for 12 weeks with that.
AnonLike others have said.....gotta have tst with every cycle....... then u got a good cycle
If you want to do it right, simply run a Test E 12 week cycle at 500mg per week. You're making this too complicated and following the "more is better" approach. You'll make solid gains off a Test only cycle if you eat well and train hard.
To be honest, the above cycle is a disaster and would leave you in a mess. No test base (all cycles have a test base), no AI, PCT is not correct. You cant run orals for that long, your liver will be in a mess. You need to up your protein on cycle, I'd like to see 300g+ per day and get your calories (clean) to 3500-4000.
This is what I recommend
Weeks 1-12 500mg Test E (split into 2x 250mg shots, equally spaced)
Adex at 0.25mg eod, OR Aromasin at 6.25mg eod. Increase if sore or itchy nipples (gyno signs)
PCT - Nolva at 40/40/20/20 and clomid at 100/100/50/50.
FR and PM if you need any help, happy to assist.
Good luck with the cycle.
X 3
Run the T Only Cycle first wait your time/plan your next cycle and run it. This cycle is not going to help you!
X2 !!!!
It's his first non bullshit cycle, so I see no reason to use more than test. OP is keen to add more compounds.
First real cycle is still first cycle regardless. He dont pass grade 8 will he be a good hs student? Nope! And hes still got it wrong after several days of folks trying to teach him. Smells fishy here