posted Mon, 08/26/2013 - 05:14
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-6 Would like some EXPERIENCED EXPERT help on getting my PRO CARD!!!
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Im currently 3 weeks into my pct. I will be getting bloods done in about 4 weeks, and will want to continue another cycle. At the moment Im trying to get my IFBB or NPC pro card. I would like to hear some peoples experiences and results. Before and afters of My previous cycle are below. I went from around 170lbs 10-12% bf to as of today 10-12%bf at 203.
The cycle was a 14 week cycle.
The cycle planning is still in progress. So if you could share your opinions experiences and results on ur cycles that would be awesome. I know its not ganna happen overnight and im willing to do kill myself for it and would like all the help I can get to get that pro card!
| Week | Testosterone E/ Sustanon | Tren | Proviron |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 600mg | 400mg | |
| 2 | 600mg | 400mg | 350mg |
| 3 | 600mg | 400mg | 350mg |
| 4 | 600mg | 400mg | 350mg |
| 5 | 600mg | 400mg | 350mg |
| 6 | 600mg | 400mg | 350mg |
| 7 | 600mg | 400mg | |
| 8 | 600mg | 400mg | |
| 9 | 600mg | 400mg | |
| 10 | 600mg | 400mg | |
| 11 | 600mg | ||
| 12 | 600mg | ||
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| 17 |
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POST CYCLE PIC:
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Don't let all the negativity get to you. Set your goals small so they can be achieved in a short amount of time, then raise the bar and reach those goals.
You are young and have plenty of time. Train hard, keep your cycles simple, and make your diet your top priority. All the drugs in the world won't blow you up like you are expecting. Getting proper nutrition for the goals you have in mind will.
Keep in mind that all these guys didn't get where they are in just a few years. The amount of food they eat on a daily basis would blow your mind. Its all about the nutrition and a small part is the drugs.
I have a buddy that is an ifbb pro that had just moved up to using a gram of test for the first time for his pro debut. Hope this puts things in perspective.
Keep plugging away at those goals brother, make sure you are getting enough food for proper growth, and don't listen to negative people. Good luck brother!!!
Look Foolmeonce were not here to put you down or to set you up to fail. We are here to help you asked an honest question. You said you were 25 ish ?? That what I'm going with. Now at the age of 25 you would have a ton of work to do to become PRO. This being said how about making short term goals ?? Lets say gain 20lbs of good quality of muscle in 1yr 1-1/2yr. This would mean your diet would have to be on point !! every day. So that would put you at 225lbs. Than go from there. Yes we all have goal and we all want to reach our goals but we all have to start some where. At one point in my life I couldn't get over the 230lb goal I had @ 6% BF. Yes with a lot of hard work and tears I got over that hump. I wasn't going to post back in here after you told me that your age really didn't matter ! That really Pissed me off !!! I normally don't get pissed off but that really hit my buttons !! However I keep seeing post in here and I don't like to see people fail !! So start small get your goals lined up ask your self were do you want to be in 6 mouths ? Were do you want to be in 2yrs,ETC...... Good luck !!
FoolMeOnceThanks for taking the time to respond, and diets on point. Any substances you would recommend me that youve had great expereicnes with? Also I agreed with you 100% age definitely matters. I just failed to explain exactly what I meant on my part which was dumb of me.
StevebThis post is basically tell me what I want to hear or I will disagree with you. And you're not even close to 12% body fat in either picture. You are well above 20% body fat.
FoolMeOnceSo far Ive only been hearing you dont have the genetics and people telling me I wont be able to do it. Of course im going to fucking disagree. I have a dream and passion and posted this for some help not to hear you guys tell me I cant do this. Just because most of you guys dont have a chance doesnt mean you have the right to tell me I dont have one. If you negative nancies wanna keep disliking my shit for no reason ill stop posting my experiences and keep to myself. I have no problem with that. Just wanted to share my results/experiences with the eroids community and hopefully get some constructive criticism or ACTUAL HELP.
StevebYou lost karma mainly for refusing to post your age.
FoolMeOncelol wow. Dont remember reading in the rules that failure to post ones age will result in a deduction of karma. Your not welcome on my posts anymore, and thanks to you I will only be sharing the results of my upcoming study on Ace-031 with friends only.
StevebI don't care to see a study done by a guy with 2nd grade grammar or give advice to a kid who looks like he has only been lifting for a few months. 19 and already doing Tren on a first cycle -1. Eat more food and get more experience before you try harsh roids like Tren.
FoolMeOnceOk this is my final message to you bro! This is going to be my 4th cycle, and ive been lifting since the age of 15. Also I had a dick head just like you banned yesterday so keep disliking my shit if you want. Just leave me the fuck alone. Be the bigger man.
you don't have the genetics bud...sorry
x2. Seriously you have run a few cycles and look like that? No way, don't waste your time trying to be a pro. You will only fuck your health up for no reason. Maybe think of going for a physique contest not bodybuilding
FoolMeOnceThanks for the help and constructive criticism.
Not hating bud just being honest
BigBmajSet smaller, more reasonable goals. You are setting yourself up for a hard fall. I'm not saying not to dream and reach high. Just shoot to do a show next year.
FoolMeOnceIm not stepping on stage again til I hit a minimum of 245 2-3%bf and I wont stop til i get there.
BigBmajHopefully you will still be alive when you hit the stage next.
People will say that's the attitude it takes to win others with say that's a guaranteed fail. Surprise me.
BillLumberghYouv'e ran 3 cycles before that precycle pic? IDK man,... but if you want it go for it I guess.
You're a young man. You're holding back your age to avoid getting flamed, guessing your 19.. maybe 20..
that is the problem right there.. if u really want to become pro then u need to research more. using tren early in the game is a big no. and if u think that over doing the compounds and the dosing is going to get u a bigger body then ur did wrong my friend.. not that im trying to take anything from ur progress but between both of ur pics there is no way thats a 30 lb gain.. ur saying u gain 30lbs of muscle and kept it in one cycle.. come on bro who are u fooling here..
Also another note.. becoming a pro is really not that big of a deal. why? go up to any one on the street once u get ur pro card one day and tell em " hi my name is---- and im an IFBB pro" and see if they give a shit.. very little ppl know what IFBB is, rather IFBB pros are the only pro athelte that have to pay to get their pro cards. did u know that every IFBB pro has to pay around $200 every year to keep their card..this is the only sport that this happen to.
if u wana be a bodybuilder do it because u wana be big and freaky not for a pro card.
wow dude I didnt know that about the pro card. I would say your on point ALOT.
Did you know I have to pay for my security license every year or I can't guard the donuts!!!!
FoolMeOncelol you must really love donuts.
FoolMeOnceYup moderate dosages at first for me. More gear doesnt = more muscle unless you put in the extra work. And you think im lying of my results? lol the stats arent exact, they're estimated but they're not off by much. My legs blew the fuck up thats where I put on the most weight. And of course no one desires a pro card unless they love the sport and want to be a freak of nature. Also one day I wanna compete against you but its ganna be a while lol.
Im going to agree with brambo on this one. Your going to need to have a good disposable income. And need massive amounts of gear, hgh,peptides, slin. Quality foods, forcefeeding until you puke. You will literally about kill yourself to get there. I won't say its impossible people do start somewhere. I've gained over 60lbs in a year. But I've reached a plateau, im fighting for each pound again. And it will take you many years but it maybe possible go for it. Take every negative comment to make your resolve stronger. You are going to need thousands of month in gear and food. And i don't encourage trt for anyone until its right for there life at that point. Im pretty sure the pros have not been off gear since they started to get where they are at
He could gain 30lbs in 4 weeks !! Than fall over dead !! Period !!!!!!!!!!
Hey bro, I am certainly not a pro and can't offer much advanced cycle advice. But you know what, fucking go for it man. I work with kids all the time who have had every bit of hope stripped from their lives, constantly being told what they can't do. You sound determined and that is half the battle. +1
FoolMeOnceFinally a positive comment! Thanks bro, really appreciate it. Stay tuned I promise I wont disappoint. I know I have big things in my future If I stay determined.
Anonyou don't have the genetics to get a pro card without killing yourself in the process. Sorry
FoolMeOnceI love your source and products!!! Thanks for commenting, but im going to have to respectfully disagree. What are you basing that off of?
Anonthe body will hit a plateau brother.. not hating on you for the admiration but if you're 19 and using tren, you've already hit the mother of steroids.. then what? you'll keep growing and making gains, but we're talking 275 with 6% BF and 22 inch arms.. the way the muscles are shaped and grow are predisposed.
here's a 20 year old Kai Greene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxlgNMxHLio
I beleiev this monster is 18 years old when this video was taken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKrZdpN7bVw&feature=youtube_gdata_player