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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

This is my 4th cycle.
Goal: gain 16lb of lean mass and drop bodyfat from 11% down to 10%
By the end of cycle (week #11 to be precise) I need my cardio back. I hope Tren Enan will stop messing with my lungs by then.

Here is gear pic for this cycle: http://www.eroids.com/pics/gear-for-my-upcoming-cycle

WeekSustTest PropMast EnanMast PropTren AceTren EnanDbolTbolTNEHCGAromasinCaberClomid/Nolva
1250 (125 twice)300 (150 twice)400 (133 eod)50 ed50 pre-workaout25 ed
2250 (125 twice)300 (150 twice)400 (133 eod)50 ed50 pre-workaout25 ed0.25 e3d
3250 (125 twice)300 (150 twice)400 (133 eod)5050 pre-workaout25 ed0.25 e3d
4250 (125 twice)300 (150 twice)200 (65) eod)250 (125 wice)5050 pre-workaout25 ed0.25 e3d
5250 (125 twice)300 (150 twice)200 (65) eod)250 (125 wice)50 pre-workaout250IU e3d25 ed0.25 e3d
6250 (125 twice)300 (150 twice)500 (250 twice)50 pre-workaout250IU e3d25 ed0.25 e3d
7250 (125 twice)300 (150 twice)500 (250 twice)50 pre-workaout250IU e3d25 ed0.25 e3d
8250 (125 twice)300 (150 twice)500 (250 twice)50 pre-workaout250IU e3d25 ed0.25 e3d
9600 (150 eod)600 (150 eod)50 ed50 pre-workaout250IU e3d25 ed0.25 e3d
10600 (150 eod)600 (150 eod)50 ed50 pre-workaout250IU e3d25 ed0.25 e3d
11600 (150 eod)600 (150 eod)50 ed50 pre-workaout250IU e3d25 ed
12100 ed50 pre-workaout
13100/40 ed
14100/40 ed
1550/20 ed
1650/20 ed
Strangelanguage's picture

Way too complicated of a cycle bro

Strangelanguage's picture

:0

Trenabolic's picture

WOW

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finafan's picture

Did you give him this cycle?

Trenabolic's picture

Yeah I told em food isn't the key it's gear the more you take the more you grow Smile

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Pmob's picture

Water like a plant !!

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finafan's picture

thats been my problem. I just needed to add 10 more compounds to each cycle

boldone's picture

As long as you keep them moderate to low dose.

finafan's picture

I have 1 question and then I am out of this. Where did you get the idea for this cycle? If it was from a human I would seriously go kick their ass for trying to do this to you.

Pmob's picture

Got it off the net ! Everyone should try it !! Don't you know everything you read on the net is true

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Pmob's picture

Shhhh oh lord ! ;-(

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boldone's picture

8 weeks of Sust? Higher dose of Tren Ace for a first time and only 5 weeks? 5 weeks of Tren E? Your Aromasin dose is borderline crazy. Your Caber dose is too high. Your PCT timing is off. If anything turn this into a Tren Ace, Test P, Oral (pick one) cycle. This looks terrible. Whats your reasoning for how this cycle is laid out?

deve's picture

why PCT is off ?
why you are suprised that Sust is run 8 weeks ?

the reasoning is tren. I want to try it but i want to keep option to cease it if I don't like sides. That is why Ace is administred pior Enan.

as for caber, it was mistake. should be 0.25

finafan's picture

arguing the fact that this cycle is good is like arguing that your not gay if you have sex with a man in prison.

boldone's picture

More than twice and I'd argue that.

boldone's picture

Eh, you gotta fuck something man. Nothing gay about getting your dick sucked is what a couple long stretch guys told me. Technically someone could be pansexual. This really has nothing to do with anything as I agree with you. I just thought I'd make this page more enjoyable to look at.

finafan's picture

I say men fit in 2 groups straight and gay. There isn't a in between and there is nothing wrong with either.

boldone's picture

lol, I agree with the last part. I've just met too many "out there" people who've said some "out there" shit to make me think otherwise. I also know of a guy, who won't be going home, with some personal property (ink identified), who used to run a muck on the west coast with axe handles "cleaning up" the streets of gays. Seems pretty funny now, the overall ending of his story. I guess its all relative to ones situations though.

Pmob's picture

L.O.L !! "I'm not gay he sucked my Dick "

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boldone's picture

What'd I miss?

Trenabolic's picture

Oh shit my bad bro stupid iPhone.

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Pmob's picture

L.O.L !! I forgive you !!

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boldone's picture

lmao

boldone's picture

You don't need to wait a whole week after Test Prop to start PCT. Sust has the highest mg's of long ester Testosterones. 10 weeks minimum, really it should be even longer. 5 weeks of Tren E is pointless. If you want to try Tren and still be able to back out, stay with Tren Ace.

deve's picture

TestProp needs to clear from system too. It will take about a week until prop leaves the system. That is why I last tbol only last week.

As for sust, I ran sust 8-weeker with great result. If blend has long half life ester in it that does not mean it is not gonna be metabilized by the body during first weeks. Moreover sust was designed by organon to achieve steady level quick because of presence of shorter esters.

boldone's picture

"TestProp needs to clear from system too." Yes.
"It will take about a week until prop leaves the system." No.
"I ran sust 8-weeker with great result." So what? I ran an oral only and got results, that doesn't mean it should be done, or is optimal.
"If blend has long half life ester in it that does not mean it is not gonna be metabilized by the body during first weeks." True
"sust was designed to achieve steady level quick because of presence of shorter esters." And? Tren (Fina) was designed to be implanted into cattle. You wanna try that one time? You'll probably get some results, but I wouldn't do it.

deve's picture

I won't argue about optimal duration of sust administration because you might be right and in order to get full benefit from longest ester in the mix the one needs to run it longer.

As for prop dropping below physiological level in about a week:
Prop has half life of 3 days.
in 3 days there will be 300mg left in the body. Higher than normal.
in 6 days there will be 150mg left in the body. TRT dose. Normal.
in 9 days there will be 75mg left in the body which is bellow normal.
That is why I concluded that at least a week required for prop to drop to level that allows to start PCT

boldone's picture

I didn't notice this comment until "waltr" posted a comment under it. I won't get into a big long reply on how you're wrong. I'll keep it short and to the point. 600mg of Prop spread throughout a whole week won't actually be 600mg and therefore won't be 300mg in 3 days and 150mg in an additional 3. 150mg is a fairly standard dose for TRT, but that isn't what has compounded as the total, its quite a bit higher. READ THIS NEXT PART TO YOURSELF AS SINCERELY AS POSSIBLE. If you truly believe what you have posted above, you are in no way ready for what we're talking aboout. When I first read this post, I thought to myself, "is he high or retarded?" Please don't take offense to that. That is what I honestly thought. I even let out an audible, "Are you fucking serious?" You need to spend much more time researching. If you're really in that big of a hurry talk to some of the upper guys, they'll probably turn you down, but you never know. If that doesn't work, I've seen some sources that offer cycle advice for a fee. You really don't have enough knowledge to be putting foreign compounds into your body. If I were you I would pay a source, I'm not gonna suggest who or where. Its not hard to figure out if you look, and I'm not trying to boost sales for any sources. If you were smart you wouldn't pay for advice, you would just do the research and train until you feel as if you've had an epiphany. This actually happens. I guess it did end up kinda long. Good luck and stay safe.

deve's picture

You disagree that if you inject 600mg of test prop then in 3 days (terminal half-life) 300 mg will be metabolized and 300mg left in the body in uncleaved esterified form ?

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