+ 7 8 week tren microdose experiment
First experiment with tren ace, ran alongside 350 test and 250 primo for 8 weeks. Started at 8mg daily and titrated up to 10 after a week, and then 12 after another week. First photo is before I began the course and the second from the last day.
All in all, I enjoyed the run and benefited from the increased drive, CNS stimulation, nutrient partitioning, and anti-catabolic affect while in a deficit. Minimal sides, but I did experience sleep disruption: I would fall asleep fine and then wake up around 12-1am and get more restless sleep for the remainder of the night, which is something I have experienced with other 19-nors.
Bloodwork stayed fine and some markers actually improved. HDL tanked to 27 from low 40s, but LDL actually improved, as did liver enzymes. APOB held steady. BP remained consistent between 115/65-125/75, with BPM ranging from 55-65 on average.
Biggest positive would be the strength and gym performance. I was consistently outperforming past sessions even while in a deficit.
I’ll keep this in my back pocket for when I do an honest prep - sometime before I turn 45 I would like to get on stage, but need to add some size before then. Nice to have some information on how I might respond to this compound, and to know that I could easily push it to 15mg/day without too many sides or much impact on bloodwork.
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The results you achieved could have been done naturally with minimal excercise & cardio.
Not sure what you are doing or why, but perhaps rethink your strategy.
Good work bro
Thanks bro! Obviously more work to do - always more work to do - but that’s what we’re here for!
Well, bro, Some People here have said they don't see a difference between the two pictures, I definitely do, you can definitely see there's been fat loss on your midsection, I can't tell 100% for sure, but you may have lost some size on your chest but it could be deceiving due to the fat loss.
Thanks man. After the dog pile that’s nice to hear. I try to be transparent and share my own limited experience. Fat didn’t melt off like I thought it would, but that just means I have more to learn when it comes to dialing dosing and diet. The lyf so short, the craft so long to learn, as they say.
I appreciate the encouragement!
What was your scale weight change? Sorry but pic 1 looks flat and bloated, pic 2 fasted with a pump. There is no increase in ab or oblique definition. I don’t think it here is much difference and really 8 weeks is not really long enough to build some tissue or was this just a tolerance test for the tren? 600mg base of gear 8 week you barely hitting saturation if your using test e and primo e
Test and primo are not coming out - I’ll continue to run those for another 8-12 weeks, depending on bloodwork.
Pic 1 weekly bodyweight average was 198; pic 2 weekly average was 192.
Yea I would suggest him titrate up 5mg weekly to find thresholds of sides then back down or pulled out. If its ace easy to call off sick from work for a couple days and till the sides are less
Nothing worse than being strapped in on the the TrenE train. All set on that one
Keep up the good work. The stage awaits
+1
I appreciate the positivity.
Progress not quite what I had hoped and dreamed of? Of course. Sunburn from too much time with the kids at the lake last weekend? Definitely. Some extra water and more body fat than I wanted at this stage in the summer? Well, somebody has to eat those PB&J crusts because we don’t waste food in this house. That’s life.
Too true. I was just yelling at my daughter earlier the same thing we don't waste food in this house!! Funny you mention that. I love synchronicities, always have an eye out for them. And also half eaten yogurts
You're hoping and dreaming to be on stage one day, and honestly I think that's the most important factor of all. Keep at it. They hate for a reason. Let it roll off you like a meatball will be looking forward to your next progress pics. Remember. The chase is the fun part =)
I do and have gone through this. My step daughter when she was younger would always order expensive meals. Then literally take like 4 bites and be done. Im like I either take the food home and eat it myself or I blow the money down the drain and thro wit away.
That would definitely be annoying, unless of course she was always ordering steak all the time hehe. I hear ya girls are finicky. But I can't complain. Always hearing stories of how boys will eat everything in sight without leaving a crumb. I guess it balances out. I'm always looking for sales, discounts or specials these days. I do most of the cooking these days, lazy wife. If we can get a place with more land someday I'm hearing meat rabbits are easy to raise
My daughter has always been a better eater than my son. This last winter her go-to meal requests were poached chicken breasts and lean beef patties, no bun no ketchup - a girl after my own heart. I’ll have her hitting PRs in no time.
Am I missing something here - Or is there a certain Youtube channel where all these Sheep follow the heard to and try out this 'Tren Microdosing Crap???
I am looking into this because there are a lot of guys doing the tren micro dosing now and yes it’s from influencers on tik tok. They claim there is no sides doing it but I am interested in how long do you run it then and what are the results. What does it do to your blood work? I have yet to find any of these micro doses doing blood work. I may have to try it out myself for scientific purposes but I hate pinning myself that often.
Is this how we refer to members of the club these days? As "sheep"? Some serious ego issues..there's more to life than a forum. That's a sheep if you ask me..OP has a life and looks great with the progress. Given the time put in you would think someone would be competing by now or look insanely ripped. Insanely. Right? We could go play for play with body shots and see who the real playground peddler is...?
It's the job coworkers and tattoos. That's why it takes me YEARS before I post a picture ;) nice to see the sac grow. No lovers quarrels these days. Got to bash on a dudes journey. While he ACTUALLY posts body pics without taking 5 years. Sad. Leave his post alone if you have nothing positive to contribute. Big difference between make and break. Now run along playboy. Just a piss ant in the OG days. Times sure have changed..
Lol what the fuck are you talking about?
You have zero pics on here. Have left one source review, have bought 4 vials of test and posted a sideways pic of them.
That sums up your contribution here.
But ur gonna call out someone who clearly knows more than you, in some unhinged, senseless babble that only a scholar in hillbilly science could comprehend?
Shut up.
Was it because I said the magic words?
I can't post. My job. My co workers. My tattoos.
Is that what drew you in? Someone sucking up all this promo gear and not a damn body pic to show for it? You both used that same excuse over and over. Both highest karma and most posts. Weiners lol
5k karma in one year? I'm sorry lol. Y'all are just straight sad..more like a badge of how pathetic. You want toe to toe body shots too? I'm ready
A member asked for advice And posted a body pic. Was called a sheep. From a highly respected member according to karma lol makes it ok? I wonder how OP feels. It's his post. And who's side he would take. That's what really matters. It's not your post or body. Your opinion of me means squat. I don't need 5k karma in two years time. Life? What's that?
Thanks for your contribution and encouragement of legit members who actually body build..I don't need to play the mommy's milk neg game. So have at it bro. Real classy btw
Is this how we really treat new, newer, newish members these days? Yikes. Very welcoming. U D'man milfpounder lol . Are we like 15 haha. Is the lovers quarrel over? How weird. Battle of the no life's made up and kissed aww. How's that for decoding. Unless the OP tells me to shut up I won't. It's not your posting or community to put others down. Both of you. Gtfu. Better yet. Get laid. Using that name screams you clearly don't. Nitey nite sunshine
BIG bro…First off, I respect the experiment, brother. This is exactly how we learn… by testing things on ourselves and sharing the results. Props for documenting everything, including the bloodwork.
That said, I think there’s an important point that often gets missed with low-dose Tren. A lot of people start believing there’s some magical dose where you get all the benefits without paying the price. I don’t think that’s reality.
Trenbolone is still Trenbolone. Lowering the dose may improve tolerability and reduce the severity of some side effects, but it doesn’t suddenly become a healthy compound. You’re still making a trade-off every single time you pin it.
I’ve seen guys trying to justify running Tren year-round alongside TRT because they’re only using “X mg.” My BROS… that’s just rationalizing. Tren is an incredibly potent compound, and it’s psychologically reinforcing as much as it is physically effective. That’s one of the reasons so many people become attached to it.
(Addicted)
Another thing I’d point out is the physique changes over those 8 weeks. Respectfully, looking at the before-and-after, I’m not convinced Tren was the deciding factor. I think a very similar outcome could’ve likely been achieved with a well-designed Test-only protocol or Test plus a mild oral like Anavar … combined with proper nutrition and training. (This is not a critic to your progress and hard work) I’m not saying the Tren didn’t work. I’m saying I don’t think the visual outcome alone justifies using Tren at a low dose the way social media has been preaching lately.
My philosophy is simple: if you’re going to use Tren, use the minimum dose that achieves your goal, for the shortest time you can get away with, then get off. Don’t romanticize it. I use it myself, but I have zero illusions about what it is or what it’s doing to my health.
Personally, I don’t find it worth running below ~350 mg/week because that’s where the cost-to-benefit ratio starts making sense for my goals. That’s my individual response not a recommendation
Others may respond differently, and that’s perfectly fine.
So again, I respect the experiment and the data. My only concern is that someone reads this and walks away thinking, “Sweet, I’ll just run 10–15 mg/day year-round and it’ll be safe.” That’s the wrong takeaway. Lower dose doesn’t mean harmless…it just shifts the risk-reward equation. Context is everything
Dig it. But I think a huge factor when it comes to tren is the test ratio along with it. Big difference . The cut mixes are kind of locked in. I feel much better when test is half the tren. Better gains also. Otherwise they are just competing for receptors
So based on your quote of 'Otherwise they are just competing for receptors' - can you tell me how many muscle receptors there are in the human body and how many 300mg/wk of Test occupies as opposed to 500mg/wk of Test? How many does Trenbolone hog or are you just assuming all of them because thats what all the online Steroid Youtubers say?
Press just by the receptors statement you should not waste your energy. That’s YouTube steroid knowledge at its finest.
What I'm saying is running low test with tren opposed to high test with tren, greater or equal. May have different side effects. One could be an easier ride.
We are not talking test dose verse test. Moreso tren dose verse test. Maybe I'm wrong and don't have the body to show for it so I'll just slink by with as few of body pictures as possible with all my thousands of posts. Maybe those compounds use separate or different receptors? YouTube graduate here. Thx
Perfect response we had a guy in 2014 or so can’t remember his name he ran tren for like 5 years straight swore he was magically not prone to the side effects. One day he came on and warned people not to take tren never heard from him again. Tren is very addicting and I don’t know how people handle the sides stuff made me feel worse than any other compound, I get it has its place but even the pros I’ve met only run it before a big competition at a small dose for a short period. Great post very informative and helpful to others.
Was his name "Irish" I'm kidding
This response shows you are every bit worthy of that Guru tag next to your name.
This is a great, generous, and thoughtful response. I appreciate every word of it, and agree. This was the first time I had used the compound and wanted to see how a short run at a low dose would go. I got some data on that, and can use it to plan into the future. And I think you’re absolutely right about the “just do X amount and it is safe!” as a lie many AAS users tell themselves. Experimenting is one way to feel out the risks, which is what I was going for here.
Again, I appreciate the thoughtfulness and insight.
Absolute fire response as always panda
Finally bro! Couldn’t agree more. Shit or get off the pot.
Shave the body hair you animal
Of all the comments and outrage in this thread, this is by far the most helpful. It didn't really start sprouting until my late 30s, but now it is here so I guess I ought to do something about it.
If that’s all you got out of this post you will never figure this shit out. Give up gear now
Comment was clearly made in jest. There’s a lot of gnashing of teeth going on here that seems disproportionate. I appreciate the levity of the body hair comment.
His comment was a criticism of your stupidity while referencing that jest. You knew that though. You're just trying to play dumb to escape criticism.
No bro. It wasn't critism. Was just busting his balls and trying to add a little humor bc i could see that this post was going to go sideways.
Bro I legit want you to accomplish your goals. You just blew off everything I said like I wasn’t speaking from experience. Until everyone else agreed with me. So forgive me for thinking you were ignoring all input. Seemed that way
The outrage is because you changed your motivation and takeaway from this experiment based on who you were talking to. Depending on who you answer you either 1.know you got 0 results and were just experimenting or 2.had fullness, vascularity and increased drive. You're a blatant pathological liar and everyone defending you or being nice hasn't read the whole thread.
Are you okay? Clearly that was meant in jest, but you seem very incensed by this entire thing and it isn’t entirely clear to me why. That’s fine, but I do want to clarify that it is possible for two things to be true at the same time: (1) I did not see results from the low dose that I was implementing, and (2) the results I did experience were the largely psychological results (drive, perceived pump, strength increases) that I did experience, even in the absence of aesthetic or visible physiological changes.
But really, I don’t know you and you don’t know me, yet you are quite angry and making personal attacks that strike me as completely unnecessary. Which is why I ask, are you okay?
Is this your final answer? All the dumb dishonest things you said were a joke? "That’s fine, but I do want to clarify that it is possible for two things to be true at the same time". Transparent as hell. Its not a personal attack. You did a dumb thing, presented it dishonestly, and this is your feedback.
Almost 100mg week is not micro anymore and together 350test and 250 primo, you are definitely doing something wrong. I got all eyes on me with 80mg test and 140mg tren… and I am close to 35 yo you look like natty
Definitely what I thought. Atleast you quit after 8 long weeks.
So .. don't do tren micro dose is the moral of the story? I can get the same results from the tanner at planet fitness.
Experimenting is cool but the most neurotoxic and overhyped steroid out there for literally nothing? You look better in the before pic. Congrats it made you red...that's it.
Definitely wasn’t out here saying “look at these amazing results!” and that was kind of the point. On a strict cost/benefit analysis, I have gotten more out of taking less toxic compounds at higher doses and for longer durations, which suggests that at the low dose the results are not what is frequently claimed. Maybe others see better outcomes with the low dose tren cycles. I didn’t see much in terms of negatives, and as I said strength and gym performance were great but that is true also of other compounds. Seemed like a push to me - not as much juice as I thought, but the squeeze wasn’t so bad either, which goes to your “overhyped” comment.
Not sure what’s with all the negativity. Part of the point of a place like this is to aggregate honest anecdote and first-hand experience, which is what I am trying to add here.
Dude you are babbling to move the goalposts. You wouldn't have bothered spilling out about liver markers and performance in a deficit if you were trying to make the point you claim. You did a dumb thing thinking it would be this high iq biohack, got 0 results, and now you are trying to defend it..failing and ended up here where you're saying "I wasted my time on purpose and fucked with my mental and physical health...for science!" God I hate people like you who skirt accountability for no reason other than to save face with anonymous internet folk.
Regular dosing works better
All these “micro dosing tren” posts and comments are so fucking stupid.