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First experiment with tren ace, ran alongside 350 test and 250 primo for 8 weeks. Started at 8mg daily and titrated up to 10 after a week, and then 12 after another week. First photo is before I began the course and the second from the last day.

All in all, I enjoyed the run and benefited from the increased drive, CNS stimulation, nutrient partitioning, and anti-catabolic affect while in a deficit. Minimal sides, but I did experience sleep disruption: I would fall asleep fine and then wake up around 12-1am and get more restless sleep for the remainder of the night, which is something I have experienced with other 19-nors.

Bloodwork stayed fine and some markers actually improved. HDL tanked to 27 from low 40s, but LDL actually improved, as did liver enzymes. APOB held steady. BP remained consistent between 115/65-125/75, with BPM ranging from 55-65 on average.

Biggest positive would be the strength and gym performance. I was consistently outperforming past sessions even while in a deficit.

I’ll keep this in my back pocket for when I do an honest prep - sometime before I turn 45 I would like to get on stage, but need to add some size before then. Nice to have some information on how I might respond to this compound, and to know that I could easily push it to 15mg/day without too many sides or much impact on bloodwork.

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BadBrad's picture

Wow, thanks for that! Put it up on the plotter and yea that is mind bending.

randomdude's picture

Always dropping knowledge. Thats interesting.

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FartDracula's picture

Okay but there's such a thing as running it so low that it only gives you sides? This guy looks worse? All it did was fuck his skin up and he placeboed himself into thinking he got juiced up by "the super steroid (tard maker)". You're just repeating lowest effective dose like its this mantra and applying where it's not at all relevant

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Scipeno's picture

At that low dose, it's unlikely to give any of the sides that tren is known for. People who microdose it do so with The idea of achieving some result without the side effects, for example, maintaining muscle in a caloric deficit.

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Joe2dope's picture

Exactly. “The idea”. That’s all it is, an idea. If all you have to do is micro dose to avoid sides, everybody would micro dose everything. It doesn’t work like that

FartDracula's picture

Lol you have 0 clue stfu.

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Scipeno's picture

Sure thing dumbass

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FartDracula's picture

"Long ester takes time to build" wow had no idea. Have some upvotes for speaking steroid babyish and contributing nothing. You guys are a plague.

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Scipeno's picture

Taking one comment, miss-quoting it with the objective to take it out of context doesn't make you look smart, keep going dumbass. Perhaps some grandiosity from how much tren you use?

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FartDracula's picture

You're defending a guy who changes his motives and takeaways based on the opinion of who hes talking to. You didn't even read the whole thread. You just think Im a mean bully. I dont do tren and it was not out of context. Sit back down, you jumped in blind swinging.

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Scipeno's picture

I haven't defended anybody, I'm merely talking about Microdosing. That has nothing to do with the authors motives or takeaways which were lacking IMO. I'm talking about the effectiveness of Microdosing this compound. You did quote me out of context, because your point was not what I was saying. And I wouldn't think you're a bully based on this, but you did talk to me like a douche, then I became a douche as well lol

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FartDracula's picture

Dude you repeatedly shill for Beligas and Ultima. Don't even talk to me. Get the fuck out of here.

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Scipeno's picture

What the fuck are you talking about, are you even able to read? I have done nothing but talk shit about those two brands since late last year and posted jano results. Also showing bunk. Belgas. You're either retarded or a liar, bro, you're not gonna get any pussy, trying to impress people here being disingenuous about my comments.

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FartDracula's picture

Yeah thats why you dogpiled a comment talking about how its straight up bunk. Its even worse when you get evidence that they suck and still defend them anyway. Anyone who can pick up on nuance knows you can't be trusted. This isn't a field for easily swayed people. Them saying they were sorry was enough for you though I guess.

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BertAK-47's picture

I fuckin like your style bro lmfao

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FartDracula's picture

Nah I made a mistake
Removing the comment because its baseless slander against this dude. (Edit: shit its too late to)

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Scipeno's picture

Yeah, would've been a super sick burn if he actually knew how to read though

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FartDracula's picture

My bad I got you mixed up with a different poster here. Ill admit when I go overboard and fuck up. Ill take back some Legs. Sorry OP's womanly dishonesty is having the same mental effect on me that actual female bullshit has.

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Scipeno's picture

It's all good, to be honest, I probably replied to a comment where you were replying to another individual. As you stated. For sure, I didn't agreed the entire thread, and had met my reply to be limited to a specific statement. But I've been smoking weed and I don't even remember what we're arguing about lol

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FartDracula's picture

I'm literally at work. No I disagree hard that low dose tren is worth it but..who fucking cares?

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BertAK-47's picture

This is also a hot button topic

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randomdude's picture

Your last two sentences. That’s where this micro dosing tren bullshit comes from. “Yeah bro I’ve ran tren before it was fuckin siq”.

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BertAK-47's picture

200 to 300 is not a big dose. It’s moderate. With it being short ester you can adjust and back out some if you have unbearable side effects. But at 200 or 300 that’s like the minimum of an actual tren cycle. Are you new to this?

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Scipeno's picture

Most definitely is not a minimum, a lot of professional guys, high-level professionals use 10 mg daily just to preserve their muscle in cut. It's not only for getting jacked.

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BertAK-47's picture

What’s another use of it than Body building? Do you use it when you weight cut for say mma? But that would fuck your cardio. Real question. I have never heard of a use beside BB

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TeaBody's picture

Dont take this the wrong man, you look good in both pics.. however, I dont see a difference in the 2

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FourYrs's picture

lol, me neither really. In the first I am about 198-200lbs; in the second 190-192. So some fat loss took place but not a lot. I think I am fuller and more vascular in the second but again it is marginal. At the low dose I think my response was limited to some performance and strength improvements but I did not see a lot of the visual effects.

FartDracula's picture

"Me neither..BUT (bullshitbullshit fullness vascularity). Cope that you didnt waste time and 2 conflicting statements. THATS why there's hostility. You are lying to yourself and then other people. That kind of dishonesty has no business doing blatantly pointless and stupid "experiments" because your testimony is unreliable

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TheIcon's picture

Similar experience with Tren A. Started 50mg a week, then 75mg, then 100mg. I might push it higher next time. Maybe a once a year cycle for me around Summer. But honestly it completely changed my look and quickly especially when my diet was on point. Im not sure I need more than 100mg. Have to check myself and remind myself more isn't always better.

FourYrs's picture

Yeah, it is a powerful compound. I would have liked to see more fat loss, but I was probably a bit too conservative with my deficit. I think I could have cut calories lower and made better use of the anti-catabolic and nutrient partitioning benefits. Live and learn.

Pipeliner47's picture

Tren + gh compliment each other well for fat loss you look good n jacked. Look into glycine for the sleep. Don't be afraid to keep jacking the dose by a gram per day. It's safe up to 40g. I take 5g per night. Really calms the cns. I also take 5g through the day. Really a game changer for on cycle. It's cheap as hell also. Anyhow. Keep Killin it

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FourYrs's picture

Good to know! Thanks for the suggestion.

TheIcon's picture

Yep my cycle was 325mg Sust, 100mg tren, 4iu GH. Fat melted off. Best shape Ive been in since college. 4iu's of GH ive said before seems to be the sweet spot for me and fat loss. 2iu morning. 2iu night.