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I got everyone’s panties in a bunch this morning lol
I can finally close the loop on my earlier post where I thought Key’s Test E300 Batch EN1104 might be underdosed.
June 2, 2026 (different source)
430 mg/week Test E
Total Testosterone: 2,042 ng/dL
Free Testosterone: 489.0 pg/mL
SHBG: 33 nmol/L
August 3, 2026 (Key’s Test E300 Batch 1104)
525 mg/week Test E
Added Anavar 20 mg/day exactly 2 weeks before labs
Total Testosterone: 3,818 ng/dL
Free Testosterone: 1,348.8 pg/mL
SHBG: 14 nmol/L
The only protocol changes between these labs were increasing testosterone from 430 to 525 mg/week and adding 20 mg/day Anavar two weeks before the August labs.
The Anavar explains the huge increase in free testosterone and the drop in SHBG from 33 to 14. But Anavar doesn’t account for my total testosterone jumping from 2,042 to 3,818 ng/dL. That strongly suggests this batch is accurately dosed and possibly even slightly overdosed.
I had posted earlier that I was feeling “off” and wondered if the gear was underdosed. Looking back, I think I was experiencing the opposite. I’ve never had testosterone levels anywhere near this high, and that probably explains how I was feeling.
Also, the Anavar ironically, it came from the same source that supplied the testosterone I was using for the first set of labs.
Obviously this is just one data point, but based on my labs, I can no longer say this batch is underdosed. If anything, my results suggest it’s at least accurately dosed and potentially above label.
Thanks for the update bro
So let me get this straight, you came in here saying his shit was underdosed, without proof. Now you have proof it is at least accurately dosed? Maybe overdosed?
This is exactly why you don’t publicly call a source underdosed based on feelings. Labs first. Accusations second.
Yup and I got down voted to hell for saying this last week lol
So you downvote me for providing labs? The irony is incredible. The whole point of this sub is to and post lab work so sources stay honest and accountable. I came back with objective data, admitted I was wrong, and updated my conclusion based on the evidence. I also wasn’t one of the people who downvoted you last week. Yet here you are complaining about getting downvoted while turning around and downvoting the guy who actually posted the labs. That’s a pretty strange way to encourage evidence-based discussion.
First off, fuck you, that’s why I posted my labs. I never claimed they were definitive proof the product was underdosed. I said I felt something was off and was waiting on bloodwork. Now that I have the data, I’m updating my opinion publicly. If the evidence changes, my conclusion changes. That’s how it works. Also, out of respect for the rules, I wasn’t going to name or discuss the other source I had been using. Now fuck off.
I do want to give you credit for posting the follow-up labs and updating your opinion publicly. A lot of people wouldn’t do that.
My point was never to attack you personally. It was simply that it’s better to wait for objective data before concluding a source is underdosed. Had the labs come back first, none of us would have had to speculate. Or wonder if you’d post labs.
Looking back, I can see how my comment may have come across as a personal attack, and that wasn’t my intention. I was only trying to make the point that accusations should follow evidence, not the other way around. Sorry for the lack of tact on my part.
All good bro - sorry about the harsh reply, must be the 1348 free lol. But i didn't make any accusations, I just said I feel off & would post my labs soon. I was really not expecting that result. I would have absolutely posted if it was under as well.
Where do you get your blood work done at?
Ulta Labs is the front end, but they use Quest.
Nice Apo(b) level. Being jacked is fun but health is wealth
Thanks. I started Ezetimibe (also from this source) the day I started the Var for just that reason.
One thing I forgot to mention… now I’m actually wondering if the testosterone from the first labs (different source) was significantly underdosed. Going from 430 mg/week to 525 mg/week is only about a 22% increase in dose, but my total testosterone increased from 2,042 to 3,818 ng/dL. Even accounting for normal biological variation, that’s a much bigger jump than I would have expected. Just something to think about. I think it's against the rules to mention it in this sub, but if you are on my friends list, hit me up if you want to know the first source.
3-4 IU of goldtropin daily for around 6 weeks moving from other generic GH I was running. Relatively unchanged.
Interesting for sure I have bought a solid amount of the 10iu and the 40iu using both for over a month now. I will wait a few more weeks and take a look at my numbers and hopefully see a bigger jump than that. Definitely have a lot of gh from other suppliers so if my labs come back similar I'll change it up also.
Is that a good/bad/neutral thing?
I’d say neutral/bad. At this point I’ll just go back to cheaper generic kits
We can’t always go off of igf numbers. Ide do a gh serum test next time.
Not going in on you when I ask this but how is it neutral/bad if your pulling the same numbers as you were compared to the last batch of growth your using at same dose from x source?
I’m not gonna pay for fancy labels if it’s the same shit
A couple comments below he indicates he can get it much cheaper.
Gay
Let’s be honest here, all non-pharmaceutical GH is generic Chinese. There are no billion dollar facilities making GH for the black market.
It’s all China generic. I just won’t continue to pay for the fancy labeling at this point
Uzbekistan has some good gh too, but it is much less common.
For some reason I don’t think Uzbekistan has state-of-the-art hormone making facilities… I could be wrong, however that country doesn’t even have roads that connect their major cities (sarcasm).
They border China don’t they? I’m sure they are just getting shit from there anyway.
Edit: I stand corrected, they border Afghanistan and other “istan” countries.
Keytech makes in in his bathtub, while he's in there with it
His semen reconstitutes really well tho I must say….no clouds just a few pubes is all
@Roidhead23 why u neg me why don’t you man up and say something rather than lurk you weirdo