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In the 2nd week of a test (400mg)& NPP (150mg) blast, split EOD and have been waking up in the middle ofnthe night with somewhat little panic attacks. Usually takes a while to fall back asleep after trying to calm the mind. I think at this point going to drop the NPP. Open to thoughts and suggestions. Precycle bloodwork came back perfect.
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never affected me but EQ does at crazy doses. I had a customer who's life was ruined by NPP. He became so unable to function from anxiety that he lost his job, couldn't leave the house, etc. Even after he stopped. He said he never had it before and now it wouldn't go away. I felt really bad for the dude, sent him to a therapist, helped with his medical bills, he was a mess. I've never heard of anyone else having this kind of response to NPP but general anxiety is common. but I agree, if anxiety is hitting, drop it, it's not worth that feeling
Thanks. It's a good reminder why this stuff isn't sitting next to the 5 hour energy at the convenience store.
Thats scary, but i dont believe my symptoms are no where near that, thankfully. Since I have symptoms early but not severe, going to give its a few daus/week before deciding to keep or drop.
I can’t do NPP gives me crazy anxiety and turns me into a freaking weirdo… I can run Tren up to 50MG a day zero sides but NPP even as low as 10-20 MG a day fucks me bad…! I have tried all kinds of ratios with it so have decided NPP and deca are a no go for me…!
Lol this gives me hope for tren...
Npp will do it. Makes me madder than fuck. Nandrolone is well known to cause mental sides, in any of its esterified forms.
150mg of npp is going to have a negligible impact on the gains you will make against 400mg of test.
Another thng to consider (and you didn't mention) is the ester of test you are using. If you were natty two weeks ago and came out of the gate on 400 test cyp/Enanthate (best guess) and 150 npp then you are currently on an npp only cycle for another week or so until the test catches up.
You could drop the npp and increase the test to 500 or,
Ride it out another 7-10 days and let the test peak in your blood and see how you're doing or,
Introduce and small amount of test prop (daily) to fast track your test levels.
Currently on cyp, and up until 2 weeks ago I was cruising at 160mg weekly (split). Think im going to give it a few more days and see what happens. If I drop it, I probably will up test to 500. Thanks for the info.
Is this your first blast? Even test can cause some anxiety initially.
Can also be estrogen related.
Not my first, its my third blast, but first time using NPP. Going to give it a week, watch BP, heart rate, and estrogen symptoms.
Look up some of my old posts. I didn't have a good first go with NPP. I decided to drop the doseage and did much better. As I got use to the low dose I slowly upped that dose and now I am ok with it. But I agree with others NPP isn't friendly for some people.
Certain compounds just seem to fuck with certain people. I learned recently I can tolerate superdrol at fucking all. But I do love NPP
What was your experience with sdrol? Injectable? Curious because I have some on the way.
Mast turns me into a dick. Worse than Tren. I love mast so much but damn it makes me a fucking prick.
It was oral. I just felt lethargic as fuck. Didn’t want to move off the couch. I just kind of felt like I was just a piece of shit if that makes sense. I got zero benefit.
I also couldn’t eat and got massive acid reflux. Made me
Just feel gross.
Could be great for you though, especially injectable.
I know exactly what you’re talking about. Anadrol does me that way. And when I push some compounds too high. Current cycle I have pushed to my limit, I believe. Fighting lethargy and lack of motivation last few days. I think it’s only the habit I’ve built over the years that keeps me consistent in the gym.
I may be about burned out from this cycle. Close to the end of it though. The acid reflux is rough lately. Go through a tub of tums in 4 days.
Almost there.
Hey OP keep this thread updated if you don’t mind. I’m starting a cycle with NPP at the beginning of Oct. curious to see how it plays out for you.
150mg eod?
Bp?
50mg MWF and BP has been steady, but have not checked when this has occurred. I'd imagine it's elevated at that point.
Any compound that rapidly jacks up your red blood cell count has the possibility of leading to high anxiety, insomnia, etc.
You are currently taking a fast acting nandrolone so that certainly fits the prolife.
As simple & silly as it sounds, you have to stay hydrated. Like beyond well hydrated. Any dehydration at all will exacerbate these side effects ten fold. In a summer with record heat waves like this, it is something to really pay attention to.
Hope this helps.
So do you think the same dose of deca would be better than NPP? Thanks for the tip on hydration.
You are welcome. Great question. The thing is with the faster acting esters the compound tends to hit fast & strong. This presents its own pros & cons. You really need to dial in the dosage because it is hitting quick. Go low and slow while slowly titrating. If you cant handle the low then you know you wont be able to handle a titration.
ThIs is beneficial because if you have to bail because you cant handle it you can dump it immediately & clean out within a week or so.
If switching to Deca just understand you cant bail as quickly if something goes wrong. The longer ester wont bomb the system as much if you again start low. If switching try starting low at 200mg or so and evaluate in a few weeks before going up any further.
All that being said some people just dont agree with the prop ester nor may they not agree with nandrolones entirely. This game is all trial an error. Go low & slow , get the most out the least, and get regular bloodwork so you know what is really going on.
Thanks again. All I am looking for is a little help with the joints. The fact that you "can't stop a train" is why I went with NPP in the first place. It makes perfect sense though that the short acting ester could exacerbate the issues too. I am low dosing it. I am taking 100mg/wk. I tried 75 too, but the effect seemed to drop off. However, I don't need any additional anxiety that is for sure. I am not feeling any atypical anxiety, I just don't want to take any chances.
I wish I could say that's the case, unfortunately I've been keeping up on my hydration levels.
Good. Thats what we do, start ruling things out . Some people just cant take nandrolone based compounds. Maybe thats you. If it is that bad just dump it.
I’ll pay attention to this the next time I run anadrol
Yeah buddy
Great that you recognized the issue rather than ignoring it. I have always compared roid use to alcohol abuse. Some alcohols don't agree with certain people. Also, a mean drunk almost always translates to Roid Rage so not the roids, but the personality is to blame.
Personally, I am allergic to juniper, so before I even took a test, I knew gin and I were a bad mix. Always listen to your body as it knows best.
I may give it a week to see if it subsides with close watch on BP and resting heart rate before dropping it.
You do You.
There is always another day to play
I noticed by the 4th week of my 6 weeks using Anavar my anxiety overall throughout the day was higher on average and it fucked with me when having conversations with people especially in group settings. It was fucking weird.
As of late I am much more frustrated overall with people and get really annoyed very easily, also much more aggressive when driving as well as just overall more impulsive. I think this is coming from the Masteron.
Anavar 20mg Daily
Masteron 200mg Weekly
Mast does this to me also. I turn into an absolute prick.
I don't think people notice it, but in my head I wanna rip your freaking head off. If I get cut off on the road I wanna rip you out of your car and beat the shit out of you lol
Same here
Bro it's so bad lol, to you I look completely normal fine friendly smiling individual, yet internally I am fuming with anger, now not all the time but just with certain people.
I hadn't heard that bout Anavar. Good to know, thanks.
It definitely wasn't a coincidence bro. Running oral Var on top of Masteron and Test aggressively forces your free unbound hormone levels to violently spike out of control. That sudden massive wave completely overrides your brain's natural brakes for keeping you calm. Your central nervous system just stays stuck in a permanent fight-or-flight emergency loop which is exactly why social settings and group conversations started feeling so weirdly anxious. The exact microsecond I dropped the oral Var out of my setup everything leveled back out and the anxiety completely vanished overnight.
Some people just get it on NPP, it is what it is I'm afraid. I can't tolerate EQ for the same reason.
As I've said many times previously though - NPP is a very head fucky compound where there are many bad versions from my experience floating around. If you get a good one like the Lab I use you actually feel fuckin awesome whilst on it then worse once you come off it LOL It's 19 nors that tend to mess with your head more so. That being said - run 50mg of DBol tabs every single day and they can make you feel very panicky and anxious too. High Test also can do this.
That sucks. Some of us just don’t get in with certain compounds. I sleep like a baby in tren and don’t feel anything but good on NPP and Deca. But I can’t take EQ. If it is prolactin then maybe stop taking it for a couple of weeks and run P5P for a while before trying again.
I experienced something similar with 300 test, 300 primo, 300 NPP. I dropped the NPP and it went away.
How long did it take for the symptoms to resolve after stopping?
I want to say about 5 to 7 days. It also made me anti social and tanked my motivation to workout. Some people just don't react well with 19nors unfortunately