i want to cut fat while maintaing mass or gaining mass nothing crazy

This is the problem that everyone runs into Bro, gotta be real careful on that first cycle not to get TOO BIG and become Massive by mistake - Seen that happen to a few guys here where Steroids turn them into 250lb Monsters overnight when they never meant to get like that.

You should literally just run. Like outside and run. 5000mg/day of running will have that fat melting.

Good luck, to lazy

lol

Coming here asking to be spoon-fed doesn’t inspire much confidence that you have the drive, curiosity, or dedication this hobby requires.

Go use the search bar. Learn how to read bloodwork, understand health markers, get your bloodwork done 3-4 times so you know where you stand and that you can afford it both physically and financially, study training, nutrition, and enhancement protocols, and most importantly, understand why people make the decisions they do instead of just copying them.

Then come back with a handful of well-researched questions that are specific to you. Those threads almost always get better responses because you’ve already invested the time and shown you’re willing to learn.

The biggest lesson in this hobby is taking ownership of your own health.

Nobody here knows your body better than you ever will, and nobody has a magic protocol that’s guaranteed to work for you.

The painstaking process of dialing things in, what works, what doesn’t, how your body responds, and what your bloodwork tells you, is your responsibility.

Don’t be a passenger in your own protocol.

Learn enough that you understand the advice you’re given, can question it when it doesn’t make sense, and can make informed decisions for yourself. That mindset will take you much further than any cycle someone can hand you.

https://www.eroids.com/forums/newbie-corner