posted Mon, 06/29/2026 - 18:38
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Is adding Masteron or eq a better addition to a test cycle
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I am about to start a second cycle in the coming weeks, I’ve heard both master and eq as good add ons to test and everytime I look I can’t seem to find which is better or what’s rly different about how they make u look. I’ve also heard about primo however all I hear is how hard it is to get. Any suggestions help or any info on what each offers so I can really hone in on what my end game looks like for each.
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apples and pears buddy., they have some similarities and you even have those weird asian pears which look like giant apples and have the texture of an apple but more the flavor of a pear, well thats eq and mast e. so the question really is, do you want an apple or a pear? or do you want an asian pear.I prefer asian pears myself
Biggfguy2Commenting on this just so everyone below knows if u get a response from biggfguy2 it’s still me, somebody said im 22 under this post and i think it got that account banned so sorry for the confusion, thanks for all the responses tho this got a lot more traction than i thought
I really don't Fuckin understand people these days, or maybe I'm just the outlier.
But I remember back in the Good Ole Days when I was considering and wanting to do Anabolic Steroids (because I actually respected the compounds and was fearful of injecting them - we didn't all just begin injecting after 2 weeks at the gym as a beginner) I came up with this ingenious idea of actually RESEARCHING all about each Anabolic Steroids and what they were each used for. If they were particularly good at making you stronger and bigger then I made a note of them.
I would then research terms like Beginners Steroid cycle, Medium level Steroid cycle, Best Anabolic Steroid for Strength etc. I would make notes on the typical doses people were using of these compounds of interest and how a Basic cycle should begin. I really didn't think of it as Ground Breaking stuff at the time, but now after the amount of clueless people continually asking US what they should run time after time - I wonder how some of you even manage to cook your own dinner on an evening!!
Why don't you research each of those 3 compounds at the top and then from reading between the lines choose which you think sounds best for your experience level?
Biggfguy2Second acc here cuz I got banned for this discussion post, as much as I agree with you and I understand where ur coming from because I’ve felt similar with people before. I don’t understand y u need to come off so harsh, I’m a natural of 6 years and just did a recent cycle and am plotting for a second cycle, idk what about this besides me asking a steroid review committee for steroid advice led u to believe I’m a novice at the gym and haven’t put in the work before steroids. I’ve researched eq mast and even primo extensively and hadn’t found a good discussion post about eq vs mast so figured I would make one for people with the same question. Also this would help to figure out my next addition, I don’t want to spark animosity by coming on here but getting mad at someone for asking steroid advice in a steroid review committee just seems kinda backward.
Well said. I spent years researching TRT before I ever started. Then I spent another few years dialing it in, getting my training, nutrition, sleep, recovery, and bloodwork where I wanted them.
Once I had that foundation, I slowly increased my testosterone and learned how my body responded before adding anything else.
Then I spent years researching new compounds. When I finally decided to try one, I introduced them one at a time based on my goals, not because someone on the internet told me to. I wanted to know exactly what each one did, what side effects it caused, and whether the tradeoff was worth it.
Healthy fear is a dying thing. Too many people are looking for shortcuts instead of understanding the risks. You only get one body. Treat it like it’s irreplaceable.
I agree. I did years of research before I ran a cycle. And I experimented on myself to see what works for me and what doesn’t.
That’s the problem they aren’t cooking dinner with the right macros to even be considering AAS LOL. You are correct sir. There’s more information than ever but the ease of access makes everyone fucking lazy
Whats with the trend of running eq and masteron together?
Hell some of these guys are suggesting running mast at 3g’s a week. I don’t know what the fuck is going on in here.
Lol yeah I just seen that shit below. I think this is the third post in the past 3-4 days about pairing these. Is there some plan to genocide estrogen that I'm not aware of?
Biggfguy2Not looking to pair them j want to get a good idea of one or the other, again it’s only my second cycle so I don’t wanna add too many compounds and fuck my estrogen up like your saying, j seeing which one I really want and what I want my endgame physique to look like
No idea. I am thoroughly confused at this point.
TikTok has fucked us.
What are your goals? What kind of Test are you running? What are potential dosages? There are ton of unanswered questions on your post to get a proper response.
Biggfguy2As for goals I guess I blend more in with the newer gen of aesthetic physiques so I’ve always kept a low bf percentage and tried to look as sculpted and keep a good frame, which is why I was looking to lean more towards Masteron as people are saying if ur under 12 percent bf u look great after taking it I guess I j really wanted to look into eq and what’s different about its potential vs mast
Mast has more potential for hypertrophy. With EQ, you will be limited by it's AI effect. With mast People consider it cosmetic, but I don't think that's really the case, it doesn't dry you out, it just doesn't increase estrogen. Also, you can titrate your dose quite high, At which point it becomes highly anabolic. I was seeing people use up to 3 g a week. I can't afford that lol
Im calling bullshit. Seeing "people" means you know multiple people on 3g of masteron? Where the heck do you live and where do you hang out where you are seeing this shit?
It wasn't a few people running 3 g, 3 g was the highest I saw, others more than 1 g
OK, Bullshit call accepted, I do not walk around seeing people running 3 g of Mast. I've seen a few people do that online, such as Todd Lee, and in my consultation with him, he laid out the rationale for it. I've laid some of it out here throughout my posts, far less eloquently than he did.
To be fair Todd Lee looks like shit. So I’m not sure I’d really want to follow a cycle designed by him
He’s a disgruntled little dwarf.
I like Todd Lee's content. He comes off like a douchy person sometimes. He probably knows what he is talking about tho. There's a bunch of ways to get jacked and he figured out one way and preaches it.
I like his videos too and Big Paul and some others. You can learn a lot watching them. I just think Todd Lee looks like shit and wouldn’t follow a cycle he did to look the way he does. Hes not even that jacked. Offseason 235-245 stage weight 205-220.
He also advocates nandrolone only cycles.
I haven't seen that,I Discussed using deca to help my tendinitis with him, shit's been killing me since I did heavy hammer curls a year ago. He's strongly advised against it, said people think it's great for joints because the lubrication temporarily helps pain, but that it's anti-glucocorticoid effect would blunt my tendon healing, through its affect on cortisol.
I'm pretty sure it was during a Dave tate table talk. He said he didn't care about getting deca dick because sex is an addiction that people shouldn't always indulge.
Well i give them guys credit even on 1g. Id be dead, or at least i wouldn't even want to try it. Or have the balls to try it
Exactly. Running mast at 600mg a week will put my HDL in the teens. I wonder what 1g would do?
Your negative opinion makes sense in this context. Your individual response is negative. I can’t run EQ because it annihilates my E-2. But I wouldn’t say that you can’t build muscle on EQ because of my peculiar response.
Also, I don’t mean for my opinion to come across negatively.
Masteron and EQ are BOTH in my drawer. I believe in AND enjoy both compounds.
But to suggest running mast at doses of 1g+ is fucking reckless. And I’m someone that likes to push the envelope. Look at my posts. I push it. 1g of mast is fucking stupid. 3gs is AIDs.
Less reckless than a gram of test, or a gram of tren as many people do here. No one should jump that number, starting low and titrating up to assess your individual response and tolerance is key.
I agree that 3g of anything is reckless unless you’re a top pro or somehow making seven figures as a result of your physique. I don’t believe that Mast is strictly for hardening or a cosmetic agent as is proviron. You can build muscle with Mast and Test. BTW, 5 out of the top 5 sources on this board have Mast E in stock. The most talked about domestic source has it also.
I wouldn't advise it, slow titration up is definitely the way to go, to assess individual tolerance, i did not present that to advise that everyone should take that dose. I'm merely attempting to state that compared to any other option available, the majority of people can take mast higher with without side effects than any other substance. And when you do take it higher, it does become more effective for muscle building. I've laid out the rationale in a few posts throughout this thread.
It’s wild how differently these compounds affect us. I can run EQ at 800 (which I have done) and it won’t touch my e2.
For the longest time, I thought EQ controlling e2 was a myth. A few people I trust convinced me it actually works that way for some others.
I also don’t get the high hematocrit with EQ.
Also, I love mast. I use it. A lot.
It just crushes my HDL so hard that I can’t go high with it. 600 is as high as I’m willing to go, and I probably won’t ever go that high again.
But, if you're using a very high testosterone dose, you may need some AI in which case EQ could be superior. However, standard TRT dose of test with a high dose of mast would produce results with less potential for side effects.
You are sharing a lot of nonsense
Sounds correct to me. Definitely not non sense
Tell us about your experience with Masteron. Including lab results. If you’ve got experience with Masteron, you know already where I’m going with this.
I don’t spout bro science. I speak from personal experience.
No man, It's about priorities, mine is getting sustainable, gains in the safest manner possible with the least side effects. Mast 100% is the way to do that.
Mast isn't safe like you're pushing and its not a good mass builder.....
It's not going to be safe for everybody at that level, everybody will be different, some people do objectively tolerate that. I'm not saying it's harmless, I think everybody here who Used any compounds has accepted that there is some inherent risk. What I'm saying is that it is the safest of all the choices you can use. You could make the argument that Primo is safer, In a side-by-side comparison for side effects, it is. However, because it will crush your E2. You'll have to increase your test and it's no longer side effect free. Anavar is worse for cholesterol. It's not the most effective Mass builder, and if I alluded to that, I was incorrect. What I am saying is it is effective when you use higher doses, and is a safer option to use at a high dose than anything else available.
Running mast at up to 3g to make it more anabolic is the safest manner possible? Even suggesting mast for adding mass is just odd.
You should probably know what you’re talking about before you say someone else is sharing nonsense.
Coming from the guy that says mast e is easily available
To be fair Mast E is very much easily available and Grizzly Adam’s did have a beard.
There are some sources that have it right now, but if you talk to the domestic sources they will tell you how difficult it is to get mast e right now
The source who I am currently in a promo with (assuming I'm not supposed to name sources here) has it in stock, just waiting for payday. I'm gonna get some more.
Ohhhhh shit...... what the hells that line from...? Was it an Adam Sandler movie?
Happy Gilmore
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