+ 1 LIPID HELP!
What's up fellas! Been on here for a lil while now and this is my first ever post, besides reviews. I just got bloods done the other day and my lipids came back exceptionally bad. At least they appear to be to me? I'm asking, am I correct, are they VERY bad to the poor it's dangerous, just not great, or pretty much expected for what I got going on? And what can I do to help my numbers? I'm currently running 400mg NPP, 600mg Primo, 1,000mg Test Cyp a week. I take 20mg Cialis a day, and at least 20-30mg Cardarine a day. I just added anavar 2 weeks ago and take 50mg a day, except for my off days. Then I just take 25mg. I also added hgh 2 nights ago. 5iu every week night, none on weekends... All that said, I should also add that since April of last year(2025) I've basically been on a blast w Test Cyp/enanthate. Never going below 500mg, but most of the time having it at either 600mg, 900mg or a little over a gram.. How bad is it to do what I been doing, by never dropping down to TRT doses of test, and just basically Blasting for a year? Should I be worried, and what can I do to help my lipids? I haven't been doing any cardio til 2 days ago, which I'ma continue with now. Thanks for the replies in advance
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How does a heart attack and death sound cunt.
Hard ass online but a nerd in real life
Not as bad as mine were but if you address it now you wont end up in the hospital like i did with chest pains being told to lose weight. Because as my dr told me. 240 is 240 your heart and joints dont know the difference between muscle and fat. So now i sit at 185 but im kinda digging the new lean look ive got. Get some ezetimibe, a low dose statin, more soluble fiber, get off orals if you're on and start eating lots of veggies and lean meats
Forsure, thanks for the input. Since posting this everyone freaked me out. I've shelved the var and NPP, and began titrating down the test n primo. I had ordered some HCG for fertility purposes, but now I'm considering just pcting completely off.. I spoke to my Dr n she is going to prescribe me a statin. I asked for Crestor but waiting to see. Bought a bunch of fat free stuff last night. One reason my lipids are prolly bad as well is I make zero attempt to avoid fats but actually thought it was better to eat high fat so my body will use them as energy. Maybe that's true if I'm ketosis, and maybe high fat is good for natural guys cuz it's what makes test, but I'm guessing if you're body isn't making its own test, all that fat is just piling up? My Dr is getting me a few different tests done as well all around cardiac health. We will see. I've been out of citrus bergamot and red rice yeast n hadn't bought anymore in over a month so I got more of both n began taking them aswell
Without saying exactly what i do for a living you should be on a high intensity statin (atorvastatin or rosuvastatin) at a moderate dose to start (10-20 or 10) + zetia. If you stay anywhere near your current LDL levels you are at a nearly 35 ish% risk of an MI or stroke in the next 10 years. Because you are on AAS I figure it will get much better just by dropping the orals and running a reasonable dose of test. You need to consider this your wake up call though. If you are in your 40s or 50s I might also recommend getting a CCTA to check what your vessels look like now. You might need more aggressive therapy if you also have significant plaque burden already
Thank you for the input. I'm 33. Since posting, I e shelved the var n NPP and began titrating down the test and primo. I spoke to my Dr and she is prescribing me a statin. I asked for Crestor but idk yet. I have to look up zetia n see if it's a prescription or over the counter so I know if I should ask her for that as well. She also is putting in for me to get 2 tests done for cardiac/arterial purposes. Something to see calcium build up I believe and most likely the one you recommended.
I’ll keep it quick since others have made really good comments..
Noted and already began 2 of the 3. My Dr is prescribing me a statin, just waiting for her to call me back and tell me what I'm getting.
Well said clapper
THIS. !
Do it now. You’ll see those lipids going down real quick if you commit to those 3 steps!
Holy shit dude, you’re right on the verge of being a memory. Listen to these guys advise and genuine concern for your longevity and health. Continue and your a has been, for the love of god, stop your cycle and seek some medical attention ASAP, get your shit in check and down the road, reevaluate a simple cycle, more is not better. This is a prime example of why keeping it simple and not adding multiple compounds is a better option. Like others said, a lot of the times it’s what you can’t see or feel is what’s gonna get your ass, your numbers are grossly detrimental to your health and life. Wish u the best and hope you take what everyone is advising you to heart.
Check your APOB. High lipids arent always necessarily bad, but your shit is pretty high! First things first, are you fat? Did you gain alot of pudge over this blast? Do you currently eat alot of saturated fats?
The "blasting of test c/e never going below 500mg, but most of the time having it at either 600mg, 900mg or a little over a gram". WTF are you doing?
Stop the cycle now. Drop to 100mg/week test and get to work on pct. You gotta be healthy first to consider continuing gear. And if you do get your bloods in order, get someone who knows what the fuck theyre doing to coach you on building
out your next cycle.
STOP
This is not only bad, but detrimental to your health. This past year of “gains” will be quickly negated by the obstructed arteries, if you continue on this path. No one cares how big you are if you are dead, and that’s the best case scenario if you don’t self correct. Worst case is you are fully incapacitated via stroke, and you’re a vegetable for the rest of your miserable existence.
I’m not trying to be a dick, but you have to understand the gravity of this game you are playing. I recommend lowering to the lowest sustainable dose of TRT (100-150mgs). You need to stop all other compounds except the necessary ancillaries needed to correct the current condition.
You need a statin, rosuvastatin is generally well tolerated. It is efficacious at doses from 5-40mg. Typically you want to start low to address tolerance then titrate up if blood work deems it necessary.
Ezetimibe (Zetia) can also be used in conjunction with a statin to achieve an additional 5-10% reduction in LDL by blocking dietary absorption in the small intestine. Dosages typically start at 10mg once daily.
You need to do a calcium score test. It is essentially an ultrasound that measures your calcium build up in the arteries of the heart. It does not measure calcium build up throughout the whole body though. So it is not all encompassing. In addition to your current bloodwork you will need to incorporate an APO-B at the least, to paint a more complete picture.
If you do not have one I recommend working with an actual doctor to correct this. This is not something where you get good blood work in three months, then start blasting again. Your body needs time to recover, I would plan to take at the very minimum a year off. Your diagnostics will dictate whether you ever blast again. Prioritize your health man, everyone here wants you to live a long healthy life.
I hope you have been monitoring blood pressure closely. Your bloodwork is indicative of systemic cardiovascular stress, typically with markers this bad you will see other system parameters deteriorate as well.
How much weight have you put on over that year?
18lbs
To answer your question, more precisely, if you continue with your current course, you're going to have added cardiovascular strain, increased red blood cells, Thicker blood, High blood pressure, and greatly expedite the process of heart disease. Eventually, the other things you're doing to keep your blood pressure and check aren't going to work, the side effects From your cycle absolutely will outweigh the benefits.
You need to run an APOB, But looking at your cycle, We can just assume that is also high as fuck. You need to take a break off cycle .
"All that said, I should also add that since April of last year(2025) I've basically been on a blast w Test Cyp/enanthate"
Dude....
I’m on rosuvastatin and ezitimbe it’s crushed my ldl into excellent range 10mg each daily.
Curious with you oil load, how is your rbc hct haem looking?
I have to get it checked n I'll let you know. I didn't get that done the other day but I am soon
1000% don’t speed run life bro.
I enjoy a blast but I also enjoy a cruise. When it’s time to come down the doses the body is knackered and ready to calm down on the hormones.
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I'm aligned with most of the answers here…..way too long to be on gear you’re going to kill yourself. 12 to 20 weeks and then come off or cruise. You should be checking your bloods every 8 to 12 weeks. You would have caught this a long time ago. Your body needs a break my friend. Get off everything now and cruise on 200 mg of test (or less) per week for about 6 months then check your bloods again. At that length of time and that much gear you might want to spend 90 days titrating down to 200mg
90 days? I was gonna do it in 3 weeks. I'd already began since posting this and everyone freaking me out. I shelved the var and NPP and began titrating the test n primo. My Dr is prescribing me a statin but I'm not sure exactly what yet cuz I just spoke to her last night.. I feel like people got it mixed up when I was describing my last year like I'm proud of it or something or like I think I'm the shit n know better than others. I know it was very unwise, I was just hoping for the best, but being irresponsible about it cuz I felt fine. Now I know.. thanks for the reply
OP’s heart has left the chat.
Seriously though, stop the blast. Drop the orals. Go to a true TRT dose or start a PCT. I’d be on a statin with those numbers, but I’m hesitant to give any advice here. I’d go see a doctor and get some professional guidance.
You definitely wanna look into running statins while on blast, and if you are prone to bad lipids even off blast then year round for sure. You may also wanna just take a break and go on a health cruise for a while. A year long blast is pretty crazy, especially with the dosages you been pushing.
I’m going to be the asshole, because someone needs to be.
You don’t have a lipid problem. You have a decision-making problem.
LDL 256. HDL 17. Those aren’t “cycle lipids.” Those are heart disease lipids.
You’ve spent the last year running 500 mg to over a gram of test, added 400 NPP, 600 Primo, 50 mg Anavar, skipped cardio, and never gave your cardiovascular system a chance to recover. Your muscles got bigger while your arteries quietly paid the price.
Then you ask if these numbers are “pretty bad.”
They’re fucking terrible. Gonna die 40 years before you should terrible. Obese and 600lbs terrible. Never gets off the couch terrible.
You also need to get your ego in check. Thinking you’re somehow different, that you’ll be the guy who can blast indefinitely without consequences, is exactly how people end up paying for it later.
Everyone worries about AST and ALT because they’re highlighted in red. I barely looked at them. The liver usually gets another chance. Your arteries don’t. Plaque doesn’t care how lean you are, how strong you are, or how good your pumps feel. It builds silently until one day it doesn’t.
If you want to keep bodybuilding instead of becoming another “he looked healthy, then died suddenly” story, your priorities need to change today, not tomorrow, not after summer, not when this “vial” runs out, now this moment they need to change.
Drop the Anavar. Stop pretending 500+ mg is a cruise and actually cruise. Do 30-45 minutes of Zone 2 cardio at least five days a week. Clean your diet up, get your fiber high, keep saturated fat under control, and start Crestor and Zetia. Pull another lipid panel in 4-6 weeks with ApoB and make sure you’re actually reversing course.
You’re spending thousands on GH, Primo, NPP, and Anavar chasing another five pounds of muscle while neglecting the one organ system that’s going to decide whether you make it to 45.
Nobody gives a shit how big you were if your obituary says you died of a heart attack at 45.
I can take someone being an asshole when I know I need to hear it. I don't have a history of any of that in my family and I never had lipid problems before. I am in pretty good shape so for it to be obese bad.. noted. Appreciate the reply.
Thanks for getting bloods and sharing. You knew you were going to get blasted on, but poasted anyway.
Quality advice in here that turned my numbers around. Implement change, keep pulling bloods and posting.
I know I came in pretty hard, but it wasn’t to beat you up. It came from a place of respect, and honestly, a little bit of love. I’d rather risk offending you today than see you become another cautionary tale five or ten years from now.
I’ve been there too. Not this bad, but every one of us who’s played this game long enough has watched our lipids go sideways at some point. The difference is whether you listen when your body is trying to tell you something.
The good news is you caught it. You’re getting bloodwork, asking questions, and you’re still in a position to turn this around. That’s a hell of a lot better than the guys who never check until they’re sitting in the ER wondering what happened.
Clean it up. Give your cardiovascular system the same attention you’ve given your physique, and I genuinely think you’ll be in a much better place in a few months. I hope you prove me wrong in the best possible way with your next set of labs.
Keep us updated. I think a lot of guys could learn from watching someone recognize the problem, make the changes, and come back with a success story.
My lipids are also dog shit, I been in the process of securing a Crestor script from my doctor right now. I see my doctor again this Thursday, and I already ran bloods for him, so at this point it should be no more issues.
Wanna get my lipids in check, this way I don’t need to be worried about heart attacks. My recent bloods where great on what I am currently running, it’s just them damn lipids.
I get my cardio in everyday of the week, and I check my BP daily. Telmisarten has been amazing, yesterday’s BP check was a 116/60.
That’s exactly the mindset I like to see. You’re checking your BP, doing cardio, getting bloodwork, and taking your lipids seriously instead of pretending they’ll magically fix themselves.
Just don’t let the 116/60 fool you into thinking your cardiovascular risk is handled. Good blood pressure and bad lipids can absolutely exist at the same time. They’re usually two different problems.
Crestor and Zetia was one of the best decisions I made for my own health. 55-60% reduction in ldl in a month.
Hopefully it works just as well or better for you. Get your lipids rechecked in 4-6 weeks, and if you can, add ApoB to the panel. I’d be interested to see how much everything improves.
Wishing you the best, brother. I’d much rather see us guys get ahead of this than become another statistic.
Thanks bro, and yeah I most definitely will be running another blood panel a month after starting Crestor, I’m sure my doctor will wanna run some more blood work as well. Idk if my doctor will also put me on Zetia in conjunction with the Crestor, but if not there are always other ways of getting it.
Hell yeah brother you’re going hard!
@Pandateston @press1 are probably the guys to help here.
Hope you’re getting some banger gains!