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120mg a week bloodwork

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Got bloods after 8 weeks on 120mg test e from Usroids. All good in the hood. Currently cutting, may up to 150mg but not really sure. I feel pretty good right here. I should note these are the 20ml bottles I bought last year before the shortages.

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Khandum's picture

Did you have clinically low testosterone? If not then why shut yourself down for natty levels?

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CnR's picture

Yes I got tested multiple times before hopping on and I was in the low 300s everytime. I wish my natty test was 700+. I just started at 120mg to see how my bloods look and how I feel. Planning on doing a blast next bulk.

Storm Ayden's picture

You tested low 300s multiple times that's clinically low, so 120mg isn't shutting yourself down for natty levels it's just TRT for a real deficiency. You're fine.
But the general question of why run low doses at all, there's a dopaminergic angle most people miss. At high doses 300mg+ test creates a huge surge in dopamine signalling, that's a big part of why a blast feels so good, the incredible sense of well being and drive isn't just the muscle it's the dopamine. However it's a double edged sword. You can't redline your dopaminergic signals and then drop to low doses and expect to feel normal afterwards, your system recalibrates to that high state so low doses feel flat and depleted not because anything's wrong but because your baseline shifted up. Personally anything under 200mg doesn't feel great to me for exactly this reason.
And that's the honest catch, the same mechanism that makes high doses feel amazing is what makes it hard to come back down and what drives the dose creep over time. You're chasing the dopamine.
So for you specifically, a word of caution since you said you're blasting next bulk. Enjoy that 120mg feels good right now because you haven't redlined your dopamine yet. After you blast and come back down this same dose might feel a lot flatter. Not saying don't do it, just go in knowing the "I feel pretty good right here" you've got now is partly because you haven't surged your dopamine with a blast yet, once you do this dose won't hit the same.
Steroids really mess with your brain chemistry so be careful!

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CnR's picture

Appreciate the write up. From what I’ve researched and heard from others, it seems like it’s kinda pointless to be running high doses during a cut/maintenance phase unless you are in prep for a show. Which I am not doing and have no plans to hop on stage. I also did just start at 120 to test the waters out and see if anything bad showed up on bloods instead of starting at 200 and having to lower from sides if any. I do plan on upping closer to 200mg here soon, but I’m pretty deep into a cut and I don’t really think stressing my body out even more would be wise, but who knows, I may be able to handle it just fine.

Mikeyt84LINY's picture

SMH. During a cut? I'm not going back and forth with u just saying. You make zero sense. Just to let you know.

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CnR's picture

I’m not really sure what you mean. I’m all open ears though

Storm Ayden's picture

Well that's good to hear, for a cut you don't a massive amount of gear.
I would advice to watch this podcast whenever you have time : https://youtu.be/qlBj9GlnhlY
They discuss the androgen receptor downregulation and the dopaminergic downregulation.

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-Infidel-'s picture

agree.. Unless a dudes natural levels are nonexistent, I dont know why guys hop on such low doses when their body is already creating the same amount (that english was kind of fucked.. hope it made sense)

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Khandum's picture

Made sense, and is exactly what I was thinking.

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CnR's picture

I wrote above that I got tested multiple times for low t before hopping on. Low 300s in multiple tests. Felt horrible all day everyday.

Khandum's picture

No I seen what you wrote, and yeah the feeling is mutual it sucks ass.

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SeeOhShow's picture

I do miss those 20ml jugs. Wish key would bring them back

CnR's picture

Same. But I still have a whole other bottle of it haha