posted Tue, 06/16/2026 - 10:11
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First Official Bulk Cycle
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Started this Bulk at 181lbs 10-11%bf
Equipoise dosing is subject to change to manage estrogen.
Pinning every 4 days atm
Looking for cycle advice and ways to manage estrogen
Thinking of changing eq dose higher if bloods come back well 6-8 weeks in.
| Week/Product | Testosterone Cypionate | Equipose |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | 400mg | 240mg |
| 2 | 400mg | 240mg |
| 3 | 400mg | 240mg |
| 4 | 400mg | 240mg |
| 5 | 400mg | 240mg |
| 6 | 400mg | 240mg |
| 7 | 500mg | 240mg |
| 8 | 500mg | 240mg |
| 9 | 500mg | 240mg |
| 10 | 500mg | 240mg |
| 11 | 500mg | 240mg |
| 12 | 500mg | 240mg |
| 13 | 500mg | 240mg |
| 14 | 500mg | 240mg |
| 15 | 600mg | 240mg |
| 16 | 600mg | 240mg |
| 17 | 600mg | 240mg |
| 18 | 600mg | 240mg |
| 19 | 600mg | 240mg |
| 20 | 600mg | 240mg |
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Bro…honestly, you know, right…E2 is one of those things that’s highly individual.
Some guys can run 750mg of test and never need an AI. Others are reaching for Adex on TRT doses.
If estrogen management is the goal, the easiest lever is still an AI. If you’re looking for a more anabolic approach, then EQ or Primo can certainly help, but the “perfect ratio” varies massively from person to person.
One thing I’d be careful with is crushing E2 during a growth phase. Estrogen is anabolic in its own right. It plays a role in IGF-1 signaling, performance, recovery, glycogen storage, joint health, and muscle growth.
Personally, I’d rather see E2 a little high than too low when bulking.
@Milfpounder asked what I think is the best question in this thread:
That’s really the part I’d be paying attention to. Not necessarily the doses themselves, but the fact you’re trying to use a very slow-acting compound as an E2 management tool while also increasing the amount of aromatizing hormone. That’s where things can get messy and where bloodwork becomes even more important.
Personally, I’d let bloodwork guide the EQ adjustments rather than chasing a specific ratio. Make changes slowly, evaluate bloods, evaluate how you feel, then adjust.
Bloodwork + symptoms will tell you more than 100 forum opinions ever will, IMHO.
Stop injecting every 4 days is a good way to manage e2. Switch to daily injections 27g 1/2 if you’re that lean. We administer 99% of drugs medically in daily mg dosages. Even drugs with long esters are usually dosed this way. So imo daily injections. Also if you wanted to do it right you’d find what your e2 is at at whatever dose your highest is with no sides. Then you ramp up the test and add 20mg/day of eq. After 6 weeks see what your e2 is at and adjust test higher if you need more or lower if you need less. But I don’t recommend the start high shit a lot of people are spouting. Kill your e2 and igf1 production and all your gains if you want to. I had this issue. 20mg/day of eq with 80mg/day of test had my e2 at 30. I needed less eq or more test. Get blood work every 6 weeks and don’t crush your shit. Also watch cystatin c on eq.
Some of my best gains came from 700test, 500eq, and finished the cycle with a splash of Dbol. Quit using Dbol bc of moon face, shit blows me up. I guess your labs will dictate but I would think more EQ to test ratio. I aromatize like a little bitch now, so higher EQ would or mast would be a better suit.
Eq 500 test 400. Remember 5 weeks til pct.
I’m curious to see how this goes for you. If you were shopping for E-2 control then I’d highly recommend Masteron for the serm like effect over the AI effect of EQ or primo. Good luck. Get yuge.
Appreciate the advice will fs take that into consideration.
Weird taper. EQ dose too low.
I wouldn’t taper down the dose at the end. The last couple weeks is where you’ll need the most gear to continue progressing. Your cruise phase afterwards will be the time to get healthy and maintain the gains.
EQ is too low imo, I’ve had a similar cycle where EQ was around 400-500 with no sides along with some NPP at 300 a week (maybe the only side was prolactin went up too high and caber solved that quick, which happened twice through the whole cycle) The results were insane and the EQ helped because no AI was needed and my nipps weren’t sensitive. Throwing some NPP along with bumping up your EQ would go well. My next cycle would be test e 500 and NPP at 405mg a week.
If anything taper up when your gains plateu at like 12 or 14 weeks. Whats the point of the EQ? I considered trying low dose eq for... a cardio boost? I never see anyone doing it tho. Im not gonna say its pointless running EQ that low but you just never see it. This is an odd cycle. Curious how you came up with it.
I recently had my bloods done and notice my estrogen was elevated at 300mg of test a week
im running a similar only test cycle. just not tapering at the end. 20 weeks total (last 9 weeks at 500mg). im up like 40lbs lol. im getting a little fat from just eating for cals but im a different human.
40 fuckin lbs? Holy shit. I'd be in full blown panic mode
I wouldn’t be able to breathe
120mg EQ is useless. You don’t need a ton but more than that tbh. 250-300mg is better to start.
Also why not just test? How bad do you convert? If that’s your first bulk. I recommend just 500mg test and you’ll grow. I promise. Eat a a lot, eat smart and you’ll grow. Promise
Eq is added in this cycle to better manage my estrogen
Is that why you're tapering both? Sort of makes sense I guess, as In increasing testosterone as the blood serum levels of eq begin to rise?
I've never run eq. So I can't attest to it at any dosage, but 3-500 test seems fine. I would consider running test @500 the whole way thru though. Either that or running prop against eq so that you have one fast lever to pull if you need to make a change. Otherwise you might end up chasing your tail a bit
I’ve preferred tapering my testosterone doses based on my previous cycles where I’ve jumped doses from 200mg to 400mg and noticed estrogen like side effects such as drops in libido, anger management, and high blood pressure. During my last cycle I tapered doses up slowly which allowed for my serum levels to build up and I didn’t notice the previous side effects.
Oh bro, EQ and test makes me a fuckin prick lol. I get snappy when I run EQ, hopefully you deal with it well
Gonna need someone who has more experience in eq and estro control, sans AI to chime in. I just take an adex if my e2 is getting out of hand.
I would assume it would be pretty damn hard to count on EQ to stabilize your E2 when you're tapering the amount of convertible hormone. But I honestly am lost on this one.
We need the panda. @Pandateston.
What was your levels? How often are you pinning?
Estrogen was at 69pg/ml at 300mg a week pinning 150mg every 4 days
Shit that aint bad at all. I get into the 80s on only 100mg a week TRT. Now THAT is a high aromitizer. Switching to daily microdosing helped a little in my case, so maybe try that out if you dont mind needles every day
We're you experiencing high estrogen sides?
So the only side effect I can relate to is possibly my anger management but that’s typically normal be on any sort of AAS. Which leads me to somewhat believe my estrogen could naturally be higher.
69 isn’t that elevated for 300mg and if you’re not experiencing a lot of sides I think it would be manageable without ai or adding eq. I personally pin every other day for more stable hormone levels. Daily pins is the most effective but a little over kill with long esters but it does work well with more stable e2 levels something to try
With long esters why the taper like that?
I don’t understand why people would taper in general.
I agree, they taper off on their own when you stop injecting.