posted Wed, 05/13/2026 - 03:20
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High test vs estro levels
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Just wanted to hear from some experienced guys with high test if or when they worry about high e levels if they have no sides and feel good
My test is >1500 and my e is 120. I have no sides and I feel great.
When I was on trt protocol and using ai in the beginning keeping my e levels lower in the "reference range" made me feel like total shit.
I stopped taking them and just let it do it's thing and felt much better and havent taken any since.
Maybe im holding a little more water but other than that no issues.
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I like it between 40-50, 120 is REALLY high. I definitely get much worse sides with crashed E2 compared to high E2
At what point do you start feeling the high sides?
When mine was bouncing back after i tanked it i noticed I started to feel real good around 50ish and at 80 e with 1300 test I felt even better.
Besides holding more water weight, I notice it from mental stuff.. like tearing up during movies, "like come on bro, I know the dog dying is sad, but its a fucking movie, get your shit together".... then I take .25mg of AI and that shit goes away. Or the opposite will happen, I get angry over stupid shit. That happens when Im 90 or more.
Sometimes my nipples will feel "itchy", but itchy isn't the right word, sensitive maybe? but that doesn't describe it well either.
At the 20s and lower, I'm tired, knees hurt like a bitch!! You know that day after feeling from doing a hard leg session? I'm old so it might not apply to you, that feeling in my legs doesn't go away at all until my E2 raises. I usually do 3 doses of 50 mg of Test prop EOD, increase my Test C dose and the knee/joint pain goes away. One time I dopped down to to 6 E2.. I could still get erections and cum, but I was super tired but couldnt sleep, like couldnt sleep for days, like 8 hours in 3 days and achy knees.
Right on bro appreciate your input.
I know the shitty knee feeling all too well haha.
I have been getting a bit shittier easier over some dumb shit. Like working on a car and drop a tool and rolls under it and pisses me off.
I got a little nervous about it so I took some adex like .25 this morning. Might do that once a week for a couple weeks and see how it goes.
Although I feel good and I dont really worry about the number I just have an irrational fear of waking up one day and boom I have bitch tits.
Its just uncharted territory for me this far and want to approach with caution and got a little nervous at the over 100 mark. Been in the 80s for a while before i ramped up and felt good. Other than some low vitamin d and slightly low hdl the rest of my bloods are on point.
If I am not wanting to cry at pretty much anything, I am good with my E2. I dont worry about what the number is anymore. I have never had gyno issues up to 800mg / week of Test. So what’s that range, it’s 70+. I dont know what the high end is because if I start to get weepy, I knock it down. Lately, I am just running Test / Primo at 1:1 and feel good up to about 650mg / week of Test. Anything above that, I start aromitizing like crazy and it’s more than the Primo can handle
Keep in mind my SHBG is 7. So your mileage may vary.
Gyno flare ups are my biggest worry. I dont want bitch tits. But i dont run ais. Only time id run an AI is if I run the Test/Dbol//deca combo. For some reason thats the only combination that will spark a gyno flare up, so I just stay away. If I run high test doses, ill use mast or primo ( if i can afford it) to combat high estrogen. But I have no problem handling 700-1000mg a week of test with no ai. Im definitely not a poster boy for proper use, I dont recommend other people do what I do. If you can handle high dosages wo an AI and youre not experiencing side effects.... I dont see any reason to take an AI.
But maybe someone will correct me!
Same. Anything below 800 test I don’t need an ai. Even when I feel I do I can only take .5 adex maybe twice a week. Anything over .5 I crush my estrogen. I personally let my estrogen ride high. I wouldn’t advise anyone to do the same. I have just found what makes me feel best.
Gyno is also my biggest fear. Thats why originally I used ai but felt like such shit that I realized my body definitely prefers the higher ranges.
I should have mentioned i do run mast at a 2:1 test to mast ratio