Working out same muscle group as pinned that day
I've seen mention of lifting with same muscle you injected into that day. It makes sense if you think of promoting blood flow there and working everything through.
But I have been doin IM as suggested in my other thread mostly in my delts. I took my trt dose of sus in delt Sunday morning then Sunday evening got my workout in including alot of shoulder work.
My shoulder has been soo sore and swole. Is this not good practice of lifting with same muscle? Is it the time between pinning and when I finally hit gym?
Should I avoid this or work that muscle sooner? It was sus 500 at 35u if that makes any difference.
Should I keep my sus/trt subq and only do the prop IM?
Side note...I am also running mast at half my test dose a week. And I feel great right now. Other than my shoulder at the moment haha
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Well ladies and genitals im glad to say my arm no longer feels like its gonna fall off. Today is a good day
It’s almost certainly the high concentration per ml that’s causing the pain. You can mix it with another compound, some straight up sterile oil, or stop using it and find a lower concentration per ml Sustanon.
Also as mentioned below it should be pinned daily being that it has Prop and Phenylprop in it.
You should be pinning sustanon daily. if it's giving you debilitating pip you need to switch to another form of testosterone that can be pinned less frequently.
Otherwise the hormone fluctuations from the prop or ace (or both) that it's front loaded with gonna cause you problems.
Alot of newish kind of users start out with some outrageous gear (like sust 500) and I'm not saying you're a newb, but if you are you are most likely suffering from virgin muscles being pinned as well, in which case you will have pip regardless of what you're pinning, only being amplified by pinning a PIP prone compound.
On the same side of the coin (and this is probably user dependent), when I pin quads l sometimes get pip. The kind that lasts for days. and if I smash out a nasty leg day when it's coming on it actually sometimes fixes it.
Are you saying the prop Ester factor in the sus is why it should be pinned everyday? I have test prop too I've been pinning daily to get to my weekly dosage target.
Sus one day a week the rest prop
I've always just been doin subq so IM newb for sure.
In that case you're still getting a surge of prop ester.
Have you been getting pip where you're pinning the prop? Why not try dividing your sustanon dose and adding it in with your daily prop injection so that it is diluted and a much smaller quantity?
I've never pinned sub q. Some guys @Greg have stated that in the right scenario sub q is preferable to im. But I believe that is mostly for micro dosing trt, not blasting.
If I were you, I would get some cyp or Enanthate ester test and do two IM injections a week for now until you get the hang of pinning, and pip and the whole rigamarole. Get blood work also.
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Thats a good thought of mixing it in. With the prop it was more i would say to be expected level of soreness. Nothing too bad.
You can try cutting the SUS with some test E. You would just mix 5 ML of SUS 500 with 5 ML of Test E 250. You then have a test mix 375 mg/ML. It should help with the pip.
Sus 500? Hahaha yea, that’s gonna have some pip.
Yea my entire lateral delt is sore as fuck. Its brutal
I imagine that Sus 500 has some bite to it. That's most likely why your sore. Working the muscle pinned should have nothing to do with it. I do it all the time.
500mg/ml are you retarded? Yes you are retarded, wtf is 35u?
Why are you using test that concentrated?
Hahaha I guess. Thats what dude had. Should last awhile. 35 is 175mg
unseen423It sounds like your source of sources is pinning such a highly concentrated Sustanon blend. 500mg/ml will bite!
I rotate spots that I pin between lats, delts, ass, and quads- I also pin ED. Today for example I pinned my left lat and trained back. No issues or additional soreness.
For me, every now and then my quad will get a little sore but nothing to prevent me from training.
Also- you mentioned sust/trt but also prop. Are you running both sust and prop?
Yes running my trt dose of sus and then adding in the prop for a blast for a few weeks to see how I handle the higher dosage. I figured the prop could be out of my system faster if I were to have any sides or needed to chill out
Interesting protocol you have going. I never really thought of it - perhaps just stick to test cyp or E, pinned shallow IM EOD.
Sus has that mix of super long and fast esters, adding prop in there makes things even weirder. Plus 500mg/mL, I wouldn't do that myself, way too concentrated for my newb ass (ouch!). I figured there's a reason people don't just buy the more concentrated options so I did some research and, especially for newer users, you can get some serious PIP with high concentrations.
I guess I lean way towards keeping it as simple as possible for my body - frequent pins to keep levels stable, cyp or E for additional stability, and 200-300 mg/mL.
I DO sometimes get a small lump that is sore but I rotate delts, lats, chest. Like you I also often work out the muscle group I pinned - perhaps that isn't smart, but I used your logic to increase blood flow and move it out into my system. Good question!
unseen423Cool- I’m not a fan of subq injections for oils so my recommendation would be stick to IM. Prop ideally needs to be pinned daily or eod.