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+ 17 Biopharma Tren Ace Janoshik Results

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These are the results I got a few weeks ago from Janoshik on a sample of Tren Ace I sent in from Biopharma. It was my first cycle and it didn’t seem to be feeling it as strong as I thought I should.

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Bisexual Stardust's picture

Hey everyone . I’ve been back and forth with them and they are making it right. I’ve been very happy with the service from them and they are going to be taking care of it .

Bigshark's picture

@Bisexual Stardust

If you haven't already send an email for a replacement

Petecastiglione's picture

Thanks for testing

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SeeOhShow's picture

For anyone wondering and to explain the “it’s lower concentration because we filtered it more for impurities”

Trenbolone collision cross sectional area is 166 Angstroms. This is the area surrounding a molecule which another molecule would have to enter for a collision to occur (or impact the filter and get caught up). This is roughly 16.62 nanometers. Sterility filtering is done with 0.22 micrometer filters aka 220 nanometers. Any of yall think a molecule with this “size” of 16.62 nm to cause collisions is getting stuck in a filter with 220 nm pore sizes?

The other filter size for “prefiltering” to get excess junk out of shitty raws is 0.45 micrometers… Surely I don’t have to explain the sizing again for an even bigger pore size

Bacteria is 1-2 um in diameter. So while both filters technically make the solution sterile, we opt for 0.22um because it’s better to be safe than sorry. Especially when it’s not filtering ANY hormone at that size anyways.

smurfdude1234567's picture

Exactly. He’s speaking as if they’re filtering out hormone before it’s been suspended.

I learned about this in specific from extracting Finaplix tablets (which only works due to solubility) way before my education was complete. It’s always interesting to see sources going “oh but google says so!”

press1's picture

LMFAOOOO!!!

They will literally try and say anything when caught selling low dosed gear won't they - these stupid excuses we are given each time are borderline disrespectful and go above and beyond insulting our intelligence.

Bigshark's picture

You can Google if filtering anabolic steroids during manufacturing will lower the concentration.

ChoZeN's picture

I do agree that filtering can cause slight reduction in the mg. But come on… why are you having to filter the oil that many times unless you’re a reseller of Chinese oils?

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smurfdude1234567's picture

If using standard .22 and the hormone is fully dissolved with proper amounts of solvents it should NOT separate tren as it is dissolved at a molecular level. The absolute smallest things they catch are viruses and some obscure proteins.

These filters are built for bacteria, contaminant, and microorganism removal.

The pores in those filters are about 5,000 times bigger than a steroid hormone molecule (very roughly).

The only way you would be removing steroid hormones with a filter like that is if they are present exclusively as insoluble microcrystals, that are big enough to be caught by the filter. If they are in solution, it's not going to happen.

Now there may be a slight loss of total volume when using a filter, but the hormone concentration should not drastically change as shown in this example.

This is why SRC’s ignorance concerns me

Jrihard89's picture

And you, Mr dumb fuck could Google Janos and use it.

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Bigshark's picture

Good one and yeah we do all the time.

Bigstevety's picture

So before you filter do you calculate what the dose will be before and after the filter?

What happens if it needs filtering again do you calculate it again?

Are all crystal clear well filtered steroids underdosed?

press1's picture

I was about to ask this too - I assume this means that the Trenbolone is produced at 120mg/ml initially to then allow for Hormone loss during filtering??!! This has to be one of the best so far, possibility better than machine calibration ...

ChoZeN's picture

He’s not brewing. He’s definitely buying from the Chinese vendors from the other forums for $15 a vial. Then filtering it multiple times. Not testing if it was even accurately dosed which most times the Chinese tren comes out at 90-92mg. So yeah.

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Bigstevety's picture

Haha that's so true. From now on I'm only buying murky unfiltered tren

press1's picture

Everyone who threw away their Cummy Floater NPP missed a right treat there - 300mg/ml that bugger!!

Mikeyt84LINY's picture

Shit i missed that one. Was only 18 a vial too. I know a few guys who used it and had 0 issues. They filtered it once themselves though.

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randomdude's picture

Plus they passed up the opportunity to shoot themselves up with some random cum. Also it could’ve been compound v.

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Codeman253's picture

Fucking wild how sources can't just own up to their mistakes. Always going to gaslight gatekeep girlboss.

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Bigshark's picture

It is our mistake and I was explaining why it happened. It's the same raws as other batches but we just filtered this one more trying to reduce PIP and impurities. And that lowered the total concentration too much.

press1's picture

Are you trying to piss in my pocket and tell me its raining? ROFL

Novalentinehere's picture

This is some real comedy.

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Jameshobbis's picture

+1 for posting there is to much shit going around lately and we need to keep on top of these sources!

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Novalentinehere's picture

Thank you for doing this test.
Also thank you for sharing it.

A lot of people seem to do damage control for these sources that drop fucked up gear. We need to hold them to the fire. The true good ones are doing batch testing. It prevents even the possibility of this shit.

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Aggieguy's picture

100% there is no excuse for a source to not be testing their raws or oils they send out.

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Pandateston's picture

Thanks Big Bisexual ! Glad you’re testing this and sharing it with us.
With those lab numbers I’d have to pin like 2cc a day… Biopharma gear not looking as good as they claim

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Bisexual Stardust's picture

its my first cycle using tren so based on the numbers I had to top my dosage

Pandateston's picture

First time with Tren A? I’d start low and build your way up. By week 6 you’ll already have plenty in your system, so from there you can adjust based on how you’re feeling(bumping up if needed). If sides start getting harsh, just pull it back or taper down … that’s the beauty of acetate, way easier to manage.

I know you didn’t ask LMAO but keep an eye on the signs. Funny thing with Tren… sometimes you don’t notice it as much as the people around you do.

Hope you run it smart and enjoy it, Big bro.

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Aggieguy's picture

I can't wait to hear their excuse. We need to just trash these sources that send out shit gear.

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Bigshark's picture

It's inconsistencies with ingredients. Based of the purity we adjust the formula. Things happen, the supply situation is not normal. It's even possible there could be nothing coming in soon for anyone.

Milfpounder's picture

It's almost like you're insinuating that your customers should be grateful for under-dosed products.

Bigshark's picture

Not at all but I know regardless of whatever I say I'm not getting anywhere. Most people are just piling, on to talk crap.

Mrtommorrow1987's picture

Just trying to help, but I think they are looking for you to resolve the situation with the customer that was sold the under dosed gear.

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Bigshark's picture

I don't get that message from their comments. But yes he can get a replacement, he just needs to set it up in email

Pandateston's picture

Is this guy a politician?
Funny how you ask about garlic and he answers about onions.
One thing has nothing to do with the other. LMAO

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press1's picture

Its been OVER FILTERED DUDE!!! Get with the program Panda ...

Milfpounder's picture

Lol "I asked about tren, not Philly cheeseteaks, air".

Bigshark's picture

Basically raws have been coming out with higher impurities so they get filtered more to try and reduce them and PIP. But doing that also lowers the concentration.

Jrihard89's picture

So.. why not test finish products? Weird how no other big well know domestics don’t have this issue…….. LOL @randomdude didn’t you test tit@n recently for their tren and it was fine? And not even 8-9 months ago someone tested the same domestic as you for tren A and it was good! Almost as if this isn’t an issue everyone has just you shark. Garbage shit

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randomdude's picture

I tested Tren A from two sources in November. Came back at 101 and 107.

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Jrihard89's picture

Yup. And someone else tested the baboon and I think Titan. So it sounds like other sources don’t have this issue shark is crying about.

Thank you for your eye witness statements

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randomdude's picture

Am I free to go?

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Novalentinehere's picture

+1 for the bootyhole. Let’s see it

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Milfpounder's picture

Show bootyhole 1st

V0411's picture

So wouldnt you test it then to adjust the raws you use accordingly to make the correct dose, im no chemist but it seems that would be the right course of action

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Jrihard89's picture

Dudes had had bad bloods on Eroids, and other forums he’s on. Never accountable!

Now I got in with them before I realized this. I reviewed the TB and it was good (not their stuff just resell) and their TNE worked. But just because it was good back in December time, doesn’t mean I’ll cuck for them now. I’ll call that shit

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Milfpounder's picture

100% man. I feel you. I've had good shit from sources that then went to shit. It's an evolving landscape.

The complete lack of accountability is striking tho.

Novalentinehere's picture

The way the source handles the mistake counts for so much. Fuck ups are going to happen. That is expected. What comes after the fuck up is what matters the most. That is where true intent shows.

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V0411's picture

Sounds like an excuse to not deal with this issue...

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Bigstevety's picture

Test your raws

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